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Pr epar ation Help: N SEP, NSEA and RM O - Swapni l Das | Br i l l iant
Preparation Help: NSEP, NSEA and RMO
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I Gave NSEA This year . I Wasn't even aware of the syllabus and pattern of exam when i gave it .Still I Got a Good score ,qualified for INAO And Also Got into State Top 1% . when i saw the paper i found it quite easy . Although I Had to leave 5 problems of physics which were from Electromagnetism And Mo dern physics which i have 'nt studied yet in de tail . All The Astronomy Questions Were quite trivial one s an d nu mericals based on astronomy can be easily done if you have studied gravitation well for JEE. Even In INAO 22-3 3 P Problems roblems Come from Physics And Mathematics Only . So i recommend to have an elementary knowledge of JEE Algebra,Coordinate Geometry , Basics of calculus(Only differentiation and integration of elementary functions) , Mechanics,Waves ,Thermodynamics And most importantly GRAVITATION . If you want to clear NSEA Then gravitation is of atmost importance . You should also have a good knowledge of Number theory (finding last digits,remainders etc ) Thats all i know from my experience – experience – Pra khar Bindal
@Prakhar Bindal Bindal – I am very thankful for your sincere advice. – advice. – Piyush Kumar Behera
@Prakhar Bindal Bindal – Yes , even I have a similar experience. Plus , I was shocked to have them ask number theory :P – Nihar Mahajan
@Nihar Mahajan Mahajan – I thought I could leave gravitation for both NSEP and NSEA, and I realize my mistake now :( – Swapnil Das
@Prakhar Bindal Bindal – Thank you sir. I am really thankful to you for your advice. – advice. – Swapnil Das
@Swapnil Das Das – You can call Me Prakhar Only :) and i am feeling good if i have helped you – Prakh ar Bindal
@Rajdeep Dhingra Dhingra Happy B'day bro! – bro! – Swapnil Das
@Swapnil Das – Das – Thanks. – Thanks. – Rajdeep Dhingra
@Rajdeep Dhingra Dhingra – Happy B'day! – B'day! – Harsh Shrivastava
@Harsh Shrivastava Shrivastava – Thanks. – Thanks. – Rajdeep Dhingra
This might be useful. – This useful. – Akshat Sharda
@Mayank Singh – Singh – Swapnil Das
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Preparation Help: NSEP, NSEA and RMO - Swapnil Das | Brilliant @Rohit Gupta – Rajdeep Dhingra
@Abi Rajan@shuvam keshari@Ajeyaa Krishnan – Rajdeep Dhingra
@Rajdeep Dhingra – i think abhi rajan and ajeyaa krishnan have already told enough. there is nothing more for me to add. but still i would like to add something about the psychological part of these exams. since it is a 1 day game, to have a good efficiency during the exams is very essential. in fact sometimes being 'normal' during exams is quite difficult and our adrenaline may even interfere with our thoughts. at least it happens with me, so my efficiency and speed is reduced to only 50-60%. :-( anyways, the first stages are not quite difficult and can easily be cleared if a student is sincere and up-to-date. i hope i was of some use!! – Shuvam Keshari
@Shuvam Keshari – Thank You for valuable comment. I hope you can share some names of Books , PDFs , resources or anything. It would help us a lot. – Rajdeep Dhingra
@Rajdeep Dhingra – in which class do you study? – Shuvam Keshari
@Shuvam Keshari – 9th. Please give us names you used for NSEP. – Rajdeep Dhingra
@Rajdeep Dhingra – you seem to be a bit excessively conscious. well i.e irodov is a must, you can use cengage as well, and even ncert additional problems are quite good. after 3 months from now, we can discuss over mail also, i'll be a bit more free then after jee. presently i'm like toast !!!!!! – Shuvam Keshari
@Shuvam Keshari – We'll talk after your JEE. Best of Luck. – Rajdee p Dhingr a
@Rajdeep Dhingra – thank you, i hope i was of some service. bye. regards. – Shuvam Keshar i
@Rajdeep Dhingra – Hello How may I be of assistance? – Abi Rajan
@Abi Rajan – Please tell us how to prepare and from where to qualify NSEP and NSEA for the time being. – Rajdeep Dhingra
@Abi Rajan – Hello Sir, Thank you for commenting. You don't need to assist, but need to advice us about IPhO and IOAA. Can you render some suggestions? – Swapnil Das
@Swapnil Das – Ok first of all I'm just a year older than both of you so I'm not much of a senior or anything. Next year will be my first and last NSEP, so thoughts on that later. for NSEA: It depends on which class you are in. Personally, I feel that 10th would be a better time for NSEA. NSEA tests only basic astronomy which you may already know or can easily learn from anywhere (even Wikipedia is good enough for this). Just know some stars and constellations, some basic astronomical terms, but importantly, study eclipses. There are always a few challenging questions on eclipses which are easy if you learn the concepts properly. The physics and mathematics part shouldn't be much of a challenge. The mathematics questions are usually just easy questions on divisibility, sequences/series, binomial theorem, trig identities, etc. There are a bunch of questions from integration/matrices every year which you can do on your calculator as a last resort (yes, there are non-programmable calculators which can do integration). As for physics, t his is where being in 10t h inste ad of 11th becom es an advantage. In 10th, you will have finished studying MOST OF the absolute basics of the JEE and NSEA syllabus (some topics like thermodynamics, modern physics, oscillatory motion are not at all covered in 9th/10th while you should be comfortable with topics like mechanics and basics of wave motion). It's important to remember everything you learn in electromagnetism and optics, because almost every question in NSEA from these topics can be solved quite easily if you are very strong in your 10th syllabus of these topics . In 10th, you won't learn these topics rigorously (no vectors, no calculus, etc) but whatever you learn is sufficient. Once you come to 11th, you will have more trouble with these topics, because you will be learning physics with calculus, and suddenly whatever you learned last year may not seem intuitive. You'll probably also forget some of it. In 10th, you have a great opportunity for NSEA. Just do all the previous year questions, just to see the style of the questions. Most of them can be solved within a minute and a half, and the easy ones within 30 seconds. If you're lucky, may be repeated word for word. for NSEP: I'll post my thoughts on this later but you should really ask someone who is more qualified to answer this in the meantime. – Abi Rajan · 6 months, 1 week ago
@Abi Rajan – Thank you. For your valuable thoughts. What would be cut off for INAO jr this year ? – Rajdeep Dhingra
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Preparation Help: NSEP, NSEA and RMO - Swapnil Das | Brilliant @Rajdeep Dhingra – That's quite hard to predict. In my opinion, this year's INAO paper was more difficult than last year's (last year had some trivial gravitation questions and easy observational astronomy, with the only difficult question being the last one), but some people say otherwise. I also think the juniors have gotten a little better this year. I wouldn't expect the cutoff to change much from what it was last year. I guess it could be around 36-44. However, I'm one of the few people who say that this year's paper was harder, so if you asked someone else, they would probably tell you some other range. It definitely will not go over 50 though, and most probably below 45. – Abi Rajan
@Swapnil Das – I am currently in my 12th . I feel solving papers for nsep nsec and nsea will help a lot. Especially for nsec, solve papers from 2005-2010 as most of the questions are taken from those papers. Nsep and nsea should be smooth sailing if u r thorough with basic CBSE stuff and their APPLICATION ...which we generally overlook.some extra topics are to be learnt ..example poisulles' equation(don't mind the spelling).for INO u need to be absolutely confident in the jee advanced topics and in certain miscellaneous topics like variable mass.For incho, Solomons and fryle is an excellent reference book. – Ajeyaa Krishnan
@Ajeyaa Krishnan – Variable mass systems are in the syllabus of JEE Mains, right? If so, they'd probably be covered in whatever coaching everyone goes to... – Abi Rajan
@Abi Rajan – We'll be in 10th next year. You are in which class ? What would be INJSO cutoff ? – Rajdeep Dhingra
@Rajdeep Dhingra – I'm in 11th right now :D Once again, I can't say for sure much about the INJSO cutoff, but this year's paper looked easier to me than last year's. Last year had a lot of application and was much less straightforward, even though this year had some topics WAY out of the syllabus. Last year's cutoff was 39 ( :( ), and I expect this year's cutoff to rise to about 45-47. – Abi Rajan
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@Rajdeep Dhingra – I wouldn't worry at all. The last few cutoffs (39/90, 40.5/100, 42/100) have all been very close to the 40% mark. I think the Excel in math, science, andthe engineering a little easier than last Log in but it only INJSO to have a cutoff above 60% was first one which was ridiculously easy. This year's paper was year's should probably be in the same range. – Abi Rajan
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@Abi Rajan – Thanks. – Rajdeep Dhingra
@Josh Silverman We need your help, Sir. We are preparing ourselves for physics olympiads. Can you suggest books for the following?: Electricity and Magnetism Thermodynamics Modern Physics Thank you. – Swapnil Das
@Swapnil Das – Hello everyone, this is Raghav Yadav, like all of you guys I am also preparing for these olympiads, the books that I am using to study these topics are published by cengage, B.M Sharma(author), and I find these books(cengage physics series) very useful and will help you too for sure! – Ragha v Yadav
@Raghav Yadav – Thank you very much bro, all the best! – Swapnil Das
@Swapnil Das – Same to ya! – Ragh av Yadav
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