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The Greatest ART of Them ALL! / 1

T h e Gre ate s t AR T o f T h e m ALL! / 1

================================================================ fastseduction.com database fetch, author: Mystery (1) -> view this article on fastseduction.com (for select & copy) ================================================================ author: "Mystery" date: Fri, 04 Sep 1998 04:00:00 GMT newsgroup: alt.seduction.fast subject: The Greatest ART of Them ALL! I am a pick-up artist. I’m not a player, but I have devoted a large portion of my time to the art of seduction. I have read many books, I dress cool, have many girlfriends and believe to be rather charming at times. However, I feel very much alone in this art. My friends do not enjoy the ’chase’ at all. I attempt to advise them on the reasoning behind the techniques but they just freeze up. I had a tough time going to grips that I am what I just said I am. Why? Well, saying you are one will not increase your chances of getting a woman attracted to you. Truth is though, I have had sex with 56 girls so far (well less, but I include oral sex and other such pleasures as sexual - you know, if you don’t have condoms you can always find other ways to please eachother) and many have been beautiful. I mean 10s! I am very good at what I do. With the risk of sounding arrogant, I am the best pick-up artist I’ve ever met :) It IS an art. I worked very hard to get good. There are many RULES I may drop here on NG. Please take them only as considerations. They are MY RULES and they have helped me greatly. My point? I wish I knew other men like myself who enjoy picking up women. For the sport. I enjoy friendly challenges but my friends have all conceded defeat. They enjoy coming out with me for the entertainment value but when they have the opportunity to approach a woman, they freeze up. Its not all that fun. I enjoy their company but cannot LEARN from them. I honestly feel like I am a MASTER at this ... not because I can get any woman (that is not possible when so many variables are outside of my influence) but because the seduction is so controlled and smooth (not sleezy but rather natural). I have considered writing a book on it. Thing is, I have made notes on my girls issues on a computer scheduler after every time I went out and I built up a good outline to say the least. My ’approach’ for the book would be different than the other books in that there is a natural FLOW that takes place. I wrote the stuff more for ME, so I really dont have an interest in writing a book for others. I will however, impart some minor pearls of wisdom from time to time here. I hope I may converse with other artists who truly enjoy the game.

It is a very simple system really: 1. 2. 3. 4.

find meet attract close

Say it with me, find, meet, attract, close.

Find, meet, attract, close.

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The Greatest ART of Them ALL! / 1

The details and subtilties however are the meat of the system. Mystery

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#1: FINDING / 2

#1: FIN D IN G /2

================================================================ fastseduction.com database fetch, author: Mystery (2) -> view this article on fastseduction.com (for select & copy) ================================================================ author: "Mystery" date: Fri, 04 Sep 1998 04:00:00 GMT newsgroup: alt.seduction.fast subject: #1: FINDING Finding is something that most men think is easy. I find this to in fact be the most difficult of the four phases. I enjoy the company of particularly beautiful women (ratings 9+) and these are for technical reasons (such as ratio to population) hard to come by. I have several thoughts on this but would enjoy anyone’s advice on FINDING models and such. I have gone out with models, singers, exotic dancers, bar-tenders, even a private eye :) I must admit I have been with a few not so good looking girls too (my first girlfriend, in retrospect, was a 6!) ’Finding’ issues include, increasing your chance of meeting beautiful women, available women, a high enough ratio of women in a given area to increase your statistical chances of the successes (RULE: the more doors you knock on the more will open.) My #1 annoyance is when I decide to go out and play the GAME, I know that the Game lasts roughly 4 hours a session. Say, a club from 10pm to 2am. It annoys me when I have to waste that valuable time parking the car or waiting in line or having to deal with my friends behaving strangely. RULE: Plan your stretegy for FINDING women. Know exactly where you intend to go. Know your city. Know the day. Minimize waste of time by getting there a bit early to you can settle in. RULE: never buy a girl a drink. This makes you seem like every other guy. She may however buy YOU a drink. I get on average 2 or 3 drinks bought for me in a given 4 hour session. RULE: never drink alcohol when playing the game. Alcohol does NOT loosen you up. If you believe that, you are weak. It is an excuse to alter your feeling of ’fear’. You decrease your statistical chances of success. Sober people have more reaction time with which to process information. "EG: 2 girls, 1 guy ... sitting at a table, guy is sitting closer to the one you want .... what do you do?" When you are drunk, you can’t process complex chess game scenarios like this. ANSWER BTW is actually an easy one here: Approach the other girl. Why. She is an obstacle to the other girl. If the other girl IS single, then the ’friend’ must approve of your first. Do not HIT on her of course. NEVER hit on a girl actually. Why. Because you may have theoretically assessed the situation wrong and the less goodlooking girl may be going out with the guy. BE attractive but dont hit on anyone. Talk to them and exude charm and confidence and humour and allow her to the opportunity to use her inate powers of seduction on you. Talk to the guy too. Now that you have this girl laughing (although you are not sowing DIRECT interest through any form of sexual enuendo) talk to the guy. Make the guy your friend. See, from his point of view, you are just a cool guy. You are charming and funny and have much to say about his areas of interest.

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#1: FINDING / 2

NOW, from the grls point of view, this guy thinks you are cool so you have HIS approval. the friend gave you her approval through laughter. And in the process you found out by asking "So, how do you all know eachother, from work?", all the details you needed to know. If she is in fact free for the taking, you disarmed the potential bombs already. By this time, the others are paying attention to you so the girl you secretly want will begin to feel neglected. Depending on her rating you begin the attack. (8s and under are played out differently than 9+s ... two entirely different strategies. 8s like the attention you give them. 9+s are so used to this attention you must give them 3 negative hits first like "Those are very nice nails you have, are they real?" When she admits they arent (most 9+s have fake nails) you say, "oh. well they’re still nice" and then turn away. See what happens in their mind is this: "Most guys think Im the bomb. Im used to that. But this guy doesnt think that. I must have screwed up my first impression image. No worries, Ill just fix that." She now thinks that she can bat her eyes and fix the little smear in her image. You weren’t an asshole about it, you just showed her you noticed a flaw but were polite about it. She will try to impress you now. She is chasing you. Do it again; another negative hit. "Ha! Your nose moves when you talk. Its so funny. No, really, its so cute. Ha ha." 9s and 10s don’t GET treated this way. HOW? Like a normal friend. Like someone you can joke around with. Thats all they want. To be accepted and this is what you are doing. But she is now even more into fixing the not-so-pristine image she is used to having. So she tries to solve this little issue. And what happens while she’s busy solving the issue? Shes talking to you. Conversing. She’s interested in making you like HER. You can NEVER ask a 10 for her #. Why? Because EVERY GUY in the wolrd and his FATHER asks. You are different. You say, "Well, It was really nice meeting you." As you start walking away, you then say, "For an outgoing girl, you are pretty shy afterall." If she is interested in your by now, she will say, "Why?" This is the beginning to flirting. You say, "because I’m leaving silly. :)" This word ’silly’ is NEVER used in front of a 9 or 10 from a stranger. so this shows your confidence and coyness ... AND, this is the third negative HIT. Notice none of these NEG HITS are really BAD. They are just not the usual flattery they get from guys. You are now waiting for her to say something - just staring at her. She is on the spot. She is a 10 and she knows it. She has an ego. You never really HIT on her. You were coy. You were about to leave without asking her for her #. She KNOWS you arent like the rest. You MUST have girls chasing you from the attitude you are displaying. If she doesn’t say anything ... with regards to her giving you her phone #, say, "Yep. You’re shy." and walk away with a smile. However, this isnt likely because she has an ego. In this case you have played on her ego to actually WANT to make you LIKE her and she will now be open to getting together again. See, being on the spot, she has to come up with something very smooth to say to keep her EGO bloated. She is now having to prove her social abilities to you. She is trying to impress you still anyway. Anything she says will come out flirtatiously but you accept it with OPEN ARMS baby. She wants to SHOW you she isnt SHY so she will be BOLD and ask for YOUR #. When she does, say ... "no ... but we can exchange #s. Fair?" RULE: NEVER give your # to a girl. If you get around to asking for her # and she says, "Ill call you" just say, "no, Ill call you." If she doesnt

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#1: FINDING / 2

give her #, she wouldnt call you anyway so just say, "Nice meeting you" and leave. After a girl DOES girl her # to you, you may then write yours for her as you say, "We’ll trade ... fair?" She will smile and say, "fair." "Nice meeting you." "Nice meeting YOU." "I’ll call you this weekend." bye You have just picked up a 10! And SHE chased YOU! And you made her ask for YOUR #. You were hard to catch. She wont forget THAT. You arent an easy guy. You arent like the others. You were a challenge. But she finally WON. Well, hopefully, she still has to call you now! now when you are on the phone with her, you say "You know, you dropped something when we were last together." She says, "what?" You say, "Your conversation with me ... where did we leave off?" She will um and ah and you say, "Oh yes, we were flirting with eachother. " Yes Im babbling. Mystery PS: the scenario I just told happened to me several times exactly as is ... in fact I swear to 2 days ago this happened. The girl was a 10! TV quality and single-handedly the best looking girl in the club. On the block! Secretly, though I showed this coyness and reserve, inside I’m thinking, "OH GOD! oh god oh god oh god!" I hid it well. I have her #. She will hopefully call me on saturady. If not, Ill wait til sunday to call her.

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Re: none / 3

R e : n o n e /3

================================================================ fastseduction.com database fetch, author: Mystery (3) -> view this article on fastseduction.com (for select & copy) ================================================================ author: "Mystery" date: Fri, 04 Sep 1998 04:00:00 GMT newsgroup: alt.seduction.fast subject: Re: none Could you kindly forward info on SS ... I just arrived here today and I do think of myself as a true artist. I am sure by the testamonial praise Im hearing, SS is something that may polish my skills.

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Re: none / 4

R e : n o n e /4

================================================================ fastseduction.com database fetch, author: Mystery (4) -> view this article on fastseduction.com (for select & copy) ================================================================ author: "Mystery" date: Fri, 04 Sep 1998 04:00:00 GMT newsgroup: alt.seduction.fast subject: Re: none BTW: I can tell you people are my type of people. I have not been able to find people with similar interests. This is EXACTLY the type of intellectual strategy I put forth into my primal indulgance. This is all so very good. Mama, Ive come home *lol* I thought I was the only one to use a tony robbins style approach to getting women.

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Competition / 5

Co m p e titio n /5

================================================================ fastseduction.com database fetch, author: Mystery (5) -> view this article on fastseduction.com (for select & copy) ================================================================ author: "Mystery" date: Fri, 04 Sep 1998 04:00:00 GMT newsgroup: alt.seduction.fast subject: Competition Its a fantasy of mine. It has never been fulfilled. I would LOVE to have a competition (a friendly one only though) where we had several guys go into a large room of girls and see who comes out with the best and the most. In a playful manner, I have suggested this with some friends from time to time but honestly, its no competition. I in no way mean to sound arrogant, afterall, Im not the best looking guy in the world, its just that I spent so much time with the subtleties of the game that I must concede Im very good at what I do. I would love to actually be CHALLENGED. To meet gentlemen who would respectfully kick my ass in the arena. A no holds barred game of wits. Of charm. Of style. What an interesting competition that would be. I feel like I am a contender for the throne. I wish someone to show me how it’s REALLY done. I can on a good week get 15 #s. The difficulty I have is FINDING the 9s and 10s though. Maybe 3 to 5 #s is an average for me per week. Of that, that rounds down to actually very few sexual partners. I enjoy the game almost MORE than the sex part (dont get me wrong now *evil grin*). I enjoy the adventure that takes place when you go out and try. Life can change in as little as a week. New friends, new girlfriend, new situations, its a grand exploration.

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Re: SS and time constraints. / 6

R e : S S an d tim e co n s tr ain ts . / 6

================================================================ fastseduction.com database fetch, author: Mystery (6) -> view this article on fastseduction.com (for select & copy) ================================================================ author: "Mystery" date: Fri, 04 Sep 1998 04:00:00 GMT newsgroup: alt.seduction.fast subject: Re: SS and time constraints. >but I dont want to fuck up with somone who I can naturally connect with while Im learning to speed seduce. I decided years ago to get GOOD at this art. I was fed up with the failure. So I challenged the failure. And YES, I DID fail more than I succeeded. But something came out of it. I can now seduce effectively 9s and 10s. My friend Tal ( a guy) was with me for almost my entire learning curve phase but he chose not to try and fail. He and I spent the same amount of time in the public gatherings. Only I tried ... and failed. He didnt try at all. He is now kicking himself because years have passed and Im getting profound attention and he is still stuck in his rut. I said, "Start to fail. That way you will be good by the time that DREAM GIRL comes along." There is little chance of Tal getting a dream girl with his current skills. I feel I may just be ready now. Think longer term and TRY the new way. You will internalize the programming, thr methods, the rules and the routines. They will then be there in a couple years when your DREAM girl comes along. Otherwise, you’ll be using the same ol’ technique everyone else uses and that means, you get nothing.

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Re: to ross about friends / 7

R e : to r o s s ab o u t fr ie n d s /7

================================================================ fastseduction.com database fetch, author: Mystery (7) -> view this article on fastseduction.com (for select & copy) ================================================================ author: "Mystery" date: Fri, 04 Sep 1998 04:00:00 GMT newsgroup: alt.seduction.fast subject: Re: to ross about friends make the audiocassette into a CD. Use your computer sound to .wav file the whole thing and edit it. Then CDr it and sell them looking like bootlegs.

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Re: The Greatest ART of Them ALL! / 8

R e : T h e Gr e ate s t AR T o f T h e m ALL! / 8

================================================================ fastseduction.com database fetch, author: Mystery (8) -> view this article on fastseduction.com (for select & copy) ================================================================ author: "Mystery" date: Sat, 05 Sep 1998 04:00:00 GMT newsgroup: alt.seduction.fast subject: Re: The Greatest ART of Them ALL! Shes real. 21 years old. Did some modelling but never had the guts to go anywhere with it really. She works for a phone company now in my city. She’s my ex now - I moved on to new adventures *evil grin* :) Honest guys, I wouldnt be a geek and PRETEND to be a pick-up artist here. I wouldnt waste my time. I would chat on IRC and try to get girls that way. (actually I met a girl off the net once and she came and stayed with me for 10 days - that is a whole other story. She was 18 years old, asian, and so damned cute. I have pics somewhere. We had a blast.) Im the real thing. Im in fact looking for other guys who are like me. I want the motivation. I need to find someone BETTER than me so I can catch up. I already learned stuff from www.seduction.com which was very enlightening. I feel like I could challenge even the TOP SS guys. I want to be proven wrong, you know? It not an outward challenge so much as it is to myself. I need a reference to see HOW GOOD is GOOD. I think Im very good, but maybe someone out there is 10 times better, in which case I would know I could be better than I am. This stuff is not about envy or cock fights or such. My lifestyle is just matter-of-fact for me and I wish to converse with people who have a similar life-style. I dont smoke, drink or take drugs, I never yell or get really angry, I never yell at women, I never treat women badly (though I enjoy toying with them so that they end up chasing ME) and I am very much into philosophy. I am a humanist and therefore very logical and down to earth. I enjoy computers (but I dont talk about that to girls) and I LOVE WOMEN. More than just sex too. The hunt, the catch, the ego fulfillment, the breasts, the body, the ass, the legs, the neck, the skin, the hair and especially the face. And the adventure, the exploration of another mind, another life. The game is a journey. Its awesome. Im going out tonight. I went out Wed nite and got only one # - but it was the one I WANTED. She was a 10 man, swer. I will devote MUCH time to her if I may. Shes 22 and going to university to be a lawyer. Should be a model. If I get a chance to get a pic, Ill post it.

I think this all stemmed from a low self-esteem as a kid. As a teen I never had any luck so I just snapped one day and promised Im become a master at the art. Am I a master? Well, I FEEL like one, though Im sure thats only because I dont have a reference to what GOOD could really mean. Playing the game makes me feel good. Its not about a one day thing. Its statistics and probabilities. The more doors you knock on the more will open. I fail more than I succeed, but when I DO succeed, I fucking SUCCEED. I have been striving for 10s now for the last year and a half. Before that, 8s. There are 3 TYPES of WOMEN, each must be treated differently. You must accurately assess their rating:

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TYPE C: girls who are 7.4s and below - what to do? ugly!

avoid them.

They are

TYPE B: 7.5 and 8 all the way to 8.9: they are pretty but the know they arent MOVIE or TV quality. TYPE A: 9s to10s: these girls seem to be the hardest. But they arent. they are just DIFFERENT. A dif approach is needed. You must give them 3 NEG HITS first. Things like, "Oh those are very nice nails ... are they real?" When she says no, say "oh. well ... they’re STILL nice :)" Its a put down without putting her down. Read another post of mine about that. I suggest getting good at internal fear stuff by chasing Cs. WHY? Because you dont have to have sex with them, you can just be friends and use them to learn about women from. Going out and having girls already around you increases your probabilities 10 fold. Type Bs are fun. They are numberous enough to enjoy greatly. They are very attractive but arent the TV model type. thats ok because they are very NICE girls. HEATHER.jpg (an ex of mine) I would rate an 8.5 - when I first met her, I guess she was a 9.2 but time lowers the rating a bit. I heard she gained a few on her butt - what a shame (shrug).

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Re: A SOLUTION - PLEASE READ. / 9

R e :AS O LU T IO N - P LEAS ER EAD ./9

================================================================ fastseduction.com database fetch, author: Mystery (9) -> view this article on fastseduction.com (for select & copy) ================================================================ author: "Mystery" date: Sat, 05 Sep 1998 04:00:00 GMT newsgroup: alt.seduction.fast subject: Re: A SOLUTION - PLEASE READ. Im in Canada as well. Accepting the variance is the most reasonable of the possible choices. Thing is, if we all lived under one CULTURE, this would further divide into SUB-CULTURES anyway. One LANGUAGE however WOULD be helpful for communication reasons. Clothing styles, and hair and whatever else people want to do is great. Why suppress the inevitable. The MELTING POT allows natural selection to create stable populations of each culture. Its all a matter of reference isnt it? We look at the differences between races and think this is large. I lok at it this way: I may meet an asian woman and be with her. I may meet a polish girl and be with her. HELLO! They are WOMEN! They have differences. Just like to asians are different from eachother. Or 2 polish girls. Im on the planet for some 17,400 more days. Assuming I die at the average of 80 (Im 26 now), then I want to enjoy WOMEN. I LOVE the difference. Otherwise Id stick with only ONE. I love the adventure, the different cultures - I love wasabi green mustard and fotomaki but I also love purogees. Enjoy the variety.

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STORIES / 10

S T O R IES /10

================================================================ fastseduction.com database fetch, author: Mystery (10) -> view this article on fastseduction.com (for select & copy) ================================================================ author: "Mystery" date: Sat, 05 Sep 1998 04:00:00 GMT newsgroup: alt.seduction.fast subject: STORIES NEW thread: Everone tells a pick-up story. I once french-kissed 7 girls all at once. I had the balls to just ask seeing as they were all into me. I was 22 at the time. I once had a 3some with 2 girls ... one was an exotic dancer the other a dancer. I knew them very well, and went out with both separately before getting together with both. I went out with one for 2 years. The other less, but we were still ’friends’. I have a pic of them but I wont post here. Besides, its not scanned. For those who havent had a 3some, it was FUCKING FUCKING FUCKING AWESOME!!!!!! My goal is to LIVE with TWO girls.

For real.

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R e : T h e Gr e ate s t AR T o f T h e m ALL! / 11

================================================================ fastseduction.com database fetch, author: Mystery (11) -> view this article on fastseduction.com (for select & copy) ================================================================ author: "Mystery" date: Sat, 05 Sep 1998 04:00:00 GMT newsgroup: alt.seduction.fast subject: Re: The Greatest ART of Them ALL! Hey buddy, In no way do I intend on bragging.

I’m really not about that in real life.

If I were to say to a group of people who were carless, that I was going to drive somewhere, I would APPEAR to be bragging. Its all relativity. So when I say I have to visit my 3rd girlfriend, it comes out just matter of factly. there is never an intention to make people feel bad. Look at it like motivation to ... get a car. Dont think, ’BASTARD is showing off his CAR again *grumble*.’ Im not the greatest of ALL-TIME. FUCK, who knows, maybe I AM! I just dont have a reference. How good IS good? I dont know. All I can do is be honest about how good or bad Im doing and let you guys judge. Im not out to be a guru here. I dont really want to help guys who are completely clueless. I wish to impart knowledge to those who are ALREADY artists. The exchange of subtlities is what Im looking for. If someone actually finds my posts BRAGGING and not simply matter-of-fact, Im posting to the wrong people. This IS alt.seduction.fast and Im one of those guys. When NEWBIES come in they WILL find the matter of fact talk to look like bragging. You’ll catch on soon enough. This is the only place I can talk about the reality of it. I cant tell girls about my exploits nor my friends because, well, its bragging to them, isnt it? HERE though, I can be honest and people can be honest back. READ: The selfish gene by richard dawkins READ: The Machiavelian Guide to Womanizing - great fucking book READ: How to pick-up beautiful women without really trying - great NOW, tonight is a SAT night. Get out there. TRY and fail and tell me what happened. Plan it. Think about WHERE they are. FIND. Then work tonight on MEET phase. MEET the MEAT (ouch *smile*) Approach and say Hi. Then talk about how elvis died his hair black and his hair was naturally blond and how that just seems weird to you. Then it she doesnt join in the conversation, say, "well, nice meeting you" and walk off with a smile. No harm done is chatting about elvis. NEVER give a line. NEVER show signs of your HITTING on her. Make her guess. If she starts talking, use a small NEG HIT. If she has gorgeous long hair (and Its fair to say that it MAY be an extention) then say, "Very nice hair. Is it REAL? :)" Be honest in saying this. She will say no and you will say, "oh. Well its STILL very nice. :)" You are actually NOT hitting on her. You are making her feel subconsious and therefore thinking about how she can change your impression

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of her. She will TRY to impress you. But you are so matter she finds it difficult. Stay playful. If she isnt, be like The girl says, "You sir are no GENTLEMAN!!" And he says with you mamm are no LADY :)" So be playful and confident at the

of fact that Rhett Butler: a smile "And same time.

GO OUT TONIGHT. Get #s! Go for 4 of them tonight. Thats about 1 an hour. How hard is that? You have an hour to meet 3 women and do it up. ONE out of 3 should give like you if you act like RHETT. Thats only 12 girls to chat with. Not rocket science. The first is hard the rest get easy for the day. Tell me HOW many girls you chatted with. If you say, only 2 and didnt get any #s then we know where your problem lies already. If there werent girls WORTHY of getting you went to the wrong place. So much for the use of you intellect. If you didnt go for 7s and 8s, you fucked up. They were practice for you ... they could have FRIENDS that YOU DO LIKE. They could be friends and join you in your future days of hunting, see being around women attracts women. EG: One guy standing with 3 girls who know him. They may not be HOT girls, but they like him and laugh with him. Then there’s another guy who is surrounded by 3 guys. See the difference in impression? Clothes make the man, but ladies make ... the ladies-man. GO, stop reading, go get ready for tonight!

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ENTHUSIASM / 12

EN T H U S IAS M / 12

================================================================ fastseduction.com database fetch, author: Mystery (12) -> view this article on fastseduction.com (for select & copy) ================================================================ author: "Mystery" date: Sat, 05 Sep 1998 04:00:00 GMT newsgroup: alt.seduction.fast subject: ENTHUSIASM Enthusiasm is contagious.

It feels GOOD to be excited.

Walk to a girl and say wish an enthusiastic smile and tempo, "Oh man, check this out. I’ve gotta show someone this." What do you show? Well, photos of you and a star are good ... "I met Jackie Chan and we took this photo and I thought it wouldn’t turn out but I just developed these pics today and it did. Check these out." Continue to talk about how you met the star. Thing is, she never even has to KNOW the person, the star. It could be just someone YOU feel enthusiastic about. "Have you ever HEARD of JAMES RANDI? No, well, he’s this guy who ... " Try this for the enthusiasic thing to show ... http://webhome.idirect.com/~magicman/levitation.htm AWESOME

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OPENING LINES / 13

O P EN IN GLIN ES /13

================================================================ fastseduction.com database fetch, author: Mystery (13) -> view this article on fastseduction.com (for select & copy) ================================================================ author: "Mystery" date: Sat, 05 Sep 1998 04:00:00 GMT newsgroup: alt.seduction.fast subject: OPENING LINES > Any hints on good topics when starting conversation? Yes, think TOPICS and not WORD for WORD lines or routines. In fact there is NO such thing as a LINE. A line is just one sentence in a ROUTINE. Your ROUTINES should be loosely based outlines. NO WORD for WORD memorizations. Remember the basic outline of the routine. Design routines that dont HIT on the girl. She’s EXPECTING that from a guy. Just be fun and funny and confident and cool and when she notices you arent hitting on her, she doesnt know whether you are just chatting for the fun of it or are hitting so she will test you by challenging this. Dont take the bait and start hitting on her. Give a NEG HIT. Heres a good one after you have initiated conversation through a non sexual topic and she has bitten into the game of chatting. "ooh, check this out .... watch this. Here, pull my finger. This is good." She will pull your finger and you go, "FFFFT! OH MAAANNN! You actually pulled my finger! haaa! No, no jus’ kidding, here, really, pull on my finger. No honest this is good. Fffft! Oh MAN! THATS TWICE!!! I cant’ believe you! My NIECE is 6 and doesnt fall for that anymore! man haaa!" You were being playful and fun and you WERENT hitting on her. She will now feel a little dumb, but you were just being playful so she wont HATE you and call you and asshole. She will however, know you arent hitting on her (which pulls her BITCH BLOCKING shield down) and so will try to restore her image in your eyes. SHE is TRYING to impress YOU. ROUTINE: Pull My Finger. Remember it. Its fun. open if you think the girl is playful already.

Its playful.

SEGWAY: segway something from one ROUTINE to another. with NIECE as a word for segwaying.

Try it to

In this case I ended

ROUTINE: My ant farm. I bought my NIECE an ant farm.

Well actually, I bought MYSELF an ant farm.

I never had one as a kid and ...... Ill tell you it later!

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Re: attn: mystery / 14

R e : attn : m ys te ry / 14

================================================================ fastseduction.com database fetch, author: Mystery (14) -> view this article on fastseduction.com (for select & copy) ================================================================ author: "Mystery" date: Sat, 05 Sep 1998 04:00:00 GMT newsgroup: alt.seduction.fast subject: Re: attn: mystery Jimmy, Is it possible, even remotely, that of the 7 billion humans on this small planet, some are men, capable of obtaining their desires? Could some of these guys even have sex with BEAUTIFUL women? Someone has to right? Who are these guys? They are out on the planets surface somewhere right? Some may even be in America right? See that picture of Heather? Is it possible she had sex before? Could that man she had sex with be on the planet still? In America? Could he even be a man in my city? Why is it impossible to believe that I’m that particular man? She’s very real and so am I. She isnt the most beautiful girl in the world. She isnt famous. Shes a real girl who used to be a shooter girl at a club I met her in and we hit it off and I went with her on and off for 13 months. Thats not Too unbelievable is it? What part makes you think I couldnt get a get like her? Im a 6ft5 man. Im healthy. And I exude charm. Im playful and confident towards women. To believe Im not able to be good with girls is very odd indeed. SEX is something everybody does. EVERYBODY. Some have sex with 1000s of women in a lifetime, others with 1 in a lifetime. Then there’s the weird stragglers who get nothing. If I got nothing, I certainly wouldnt be spouting off such good info. It I could give info li8ke this, you’d figure I must be able to use at least SOME of it right? Its not THAT hard to get laid is it? Im 26 and had it was 56 girls so far. Some were fucking ugly. But some were BEAUTIFUL. And Yes, that girl, I fucked her very good. And yes IM the one who fucked her, not you. Someone did, and if you cant possibly imagine that, wow man, Im glad Im not you. I appreciate only friendly posts so Im sure your reply will be a nasty one so Ill let you have it. You get the last reply because unless you are normal about such a small issue (a man had sex with some nice looking girls .... IMPOSSIBLE!) I wont bother replying. You can win your war ... while tonight Im going out to get laid. Its SAT NIGHT! >sub par class of human beings. Nice to meet you loser. Where is your evidence to support my sub par class of human beings? Survival of the fittest, right? The continuance of our species? Arent you getting laid or something? You think its impossible for others to get laid by cuties? Im a loser, true. But I HIDE it VERY WELL. Thats why I get to fuck da babes! The pic BTW doesnt look like its from a fucking CD gallery. I scanned it myself and cropped it and jpged it from a bmp file. I did it cause she wanted me to send it to her parents in another town. Losers I dont think would discuss WAYS to pick up girls. They would discuss ways to break into porn sites.

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Re: ARE YOU FUCKING SERIOUS??? / 15

R e :AR EYO U FU CKIN GS ER IO U S ???/15

================================================================ fastseduction.com database fetch, author: Mystery (15) -> view this article on fastseduction.com (for select & copy) ================================================================ author: "Mystery" date: Sat, 05 Sep 1998 04:00:00 GMT newsgroup: alt.seduction.fast subject: Re: ARE YOU FUCKING SERIOUS??? ok ... it was all a joke

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================================================================ fastseduction.com database fetch, author: Mystery (16) -> view this article on fastseduction.com (for select & copy) ================================================================ author: "Mystery" date: Sat, 05 Sep 1998 04:00:00 GMT newsgroup: alt.seduction.fast subject: Re: attn: mystery >you have not been laid since ’79 I was 8.

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Re: A pick up line at the gym and college? / 17

R e : Ap ick u p li n e at th e g ym an d co lle g e ? / 17

================================================================ fastseduction.com database fetch, author: Mystery (17) -> view this article on fastseduction.com (for select & copy) ================================================================ author: "Mystery" date: Sun, 06 Sep 1998 04:00:00 GMT newsgroup: alt.seduction.fast subject: Re: A pick up line at the gym and college? Theres an interesting intro. "What you you think about when your working out?" "I’ve been watching you and you seem to really be thinking about things." Do NOT ask for the #. Find out what her workout routine is and see if you’d like to share your workout time together. Then you can say, ... "I’ve been thinking about something in particular lately whenever I workout. Most people I bet just think about how they are going to have this great body and all, others think about how they are going to make their next million. What do YOU think about?" Then talk about how YOU’ve been thinking about the way the brain works. life is alot like working out.

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How


Re: A pick up line at the gym and college? / 18

R e : Ap ick u p li n e at th e g ym an d co lle g e ? / 18

================================================================ fastseduction.com database fetch, author: Mystery (18) -> view this article on fastseduction.com (for select & copy) ================================================================ author: "Mystery" date: Mon, 07 Sep 1998 04:00:00 GMT newsgroup: alt.seduction.fast subject: Re: A pick up line at the gym and college? wow ... you actually boggle (shrug)

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THE BIG THREAD: Field Logs / 19

T H EB IG T H R EAD : Fie ld Lo g s /19

================================================================ fastseduction.com database fetch, author: Mystery (19) -> view this article on fastseduction.com (for select & copy) ================================================================ author: "Mystery" date: Mon, 07 Sep 1998 04:00:00 GMT newsgroup: alt.seduction.fast subject: THE BIG THREAD: Field Logs well nothing is easy exactly, but it is worth the effort. :D I would like to spark off a seduction quest. Go out guys and seduce. want to hear your adventures. Log them here.

We

Dont worry about getting laid, that puts too much stress on ya. We are PROUD of bombing. Go out, TRY and if you succeed, tell us. If you bomb, TELL us. We want to hear. We need to hear your failures too in order to learn from your lessons. Tell us your plans for the week. Your goals for getting girls. Where do you plan on going? Why? What do you intend on wearing? Why? What routines (or patterns hehe) have you tried and what was the outcome.

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This weeks lesson / 20

T h is we e ks le s s o n / 20

================================================================ fastseduction.com database fetch, author: Mystery (20) -> view this article on fastseduction.com (for select & copy) ================================================================ author: "Mystery" date: Mon, 07 Sep 1998 04:00:00 GMT newsgroup: alt.seduction.fast subject: This weeks lesson watch some day time soap operas. Learn what girls think romance really is. Then watch Gone With The Wind and study the attitude of Rhett Butler (seriously). And then notice Richard Gere’s little attitude adjusters in Pretty Woman (eg: when Vivian sits on the table, he tells her there are four chairs to choose from.)

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Re: This weeks lesson / 21

R e : T h is we e ks le s s o n / 21

================================================================ fastseduction.com database fetch, author: Mystery (21) -> view this article on fastseduction.com (for select & copy) ================================================================ author: "Mystery" date: Mon, 07 Sep 1998 04:00:00 GMT newsgroup: alt.seduction.fast subject: Re: This weeks lesson Hey hun, I henceforth will merely assume you have turrets syndrome and cant help being your way. Its ok, you are an interesting character ... you remind my of the crazy guy who teaches Patrick Swayze how to move stuff in the movie Ghost. You are crazy hun. But thats ok. I like the concept of opening with the "I have an intuition about you." Its intriguing for the girl.

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Re: This weeks lesson / 22

R e : T h is we e ks le s s o n / 22

================================================================ fastseduction.com database fetch, author: Mystery (22) -> view this article on fastseduction.com (for select & copy) ================================================================ author: "Mystery" date: Mon, 07 Sep 1998 04:00:00 GMT newsgroup: alt.seduction.fast subject: Re: This weeks lesson Forgive my ignorance, but Im not as versed in foul language as you may be. What is PEDAREST?

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"ladies man" scripting / 23

" lad ie s m an "s cr ip tin g/23

================================================================ fastseduction.com database fetch, author: Mystery (23) -> view this article on fastseduction.com (for select & copy) ================================================================ author: "Mystery" date: Mon, 07 Sep 1998 04:00:00 GMT newsgroup: alt.seduction.fast subject: "ladies man" scripting SHE: "What do you do?" HE: "I seduce beautiful women.

I’m what they call a ’Ladies Man’."

SHE: "Well it ain’t workin’ on me." HE: "Well you maam are no lady."

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A new name / 24

An e w n am e / 24

================================================================ fastseduction.com database fetch, author: Mystery (24) -> view this article on fastseduction.com (for select & copy) ================================================================ author: "Mystery" date: Mon, 07 Sep 1998 04:00:00 GMT newsgroup: alt.seduction.fast subject: A new name Player Womanizer Pick-up artist Speed Seductionist Steel Ball man Seducer Don Juan (sp?) Deceiver Illusionist Ladies-man Professional Asshole Romancer I would like to give this wonderful art a name we can all enjoy and appreciate. I don’t personally care to have the word Speed in it as its not all that ’romantic’. Any ideas?

Seducer is pretty good.

Also, SS calls scripting patterns. Some say, "Im going to make a ’play’ on a girl" - a football connotation. Ive been calling it a HIT. If it didnt pan out, I call that a NOGO. Did it go? no. Womanizer is appealing but in this day of equality, I do not wish to connect sexist with pick-up artistry. They arent really connected but people will think that. What are the definitions to you guys? A player to me is someone who fucks a new girl every day - Im not a player by that standard definition. I picture them as outwardly SEXUAL and very fast. They seek women who enjoy that game and know the rules. Like in Swingers A seducer chases innocent women like in Dangerous Liasons A womanizer does it for the money (I could be wrong about my definitions, Im just writing my impression - which could be easily swayed by reply posts) like the guys in Dirty Rotten Scoundrals A ladies-man?

Rhett Butler

professional assholes are comedians What are YOU? Out of this I hope to find a common ground of what is the best to be. I LOVE women. Womanizer? Me? I dont think so. Pick-up Artist connotates an art appreciation. I dont sleep with every girl I ’pick-up’. I just love the art of it. But I don’t want to be known as a

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A new name / 24

guy who ’picks up." To pick up something is easy. There it is, just pick it up. Im more of a treasure hunter. Sure. I was considering compiling my thoughts into a book called The Art of Attraction. Im maybe an attractionist or an attraction artist. Naw. How about a Lone Wolf. Naw, that seems too predatorial. I’m more into the Hunt. Im a hound and she’s the fox. Ahh, so many metaphors. We need more to begin contemplating the similarities and the differences. I want to be able to tell someone what I am and have them not think Im a sexist pig. Because Im not. I guess you could call me a LOVER. One guy here is a polisher. He picks up a rough girl who’s been bashed around once too often and polishes her up. Me? That takes too long and you have to be a fucking psychiatrist for them. Naw, I prefer women who already have it together in their heads. Treasure hunter. Some are agriculturalist womanizers. They find a girl who isnt ready and become friends with her til he’s ripe. Ok, sure it can work, but while you are waiting ... :D

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Re: Mystery is a pederast / 25

R e : M ys te ry is a p e d e ras t / 25

================================================================ fastseduction.com database fetch, author: Mystery (25) -> view this article on fastseduction.com (for select & copy) ================================================================ author: "Mystery" date: Mon, 07 Sep 1998 04:00:00 GMT newsgroup: alt.seduction.fast subject: Re: Mystery is a pederast I figured it out ... PEDARESTs are people who DONT speak ebonics. get it now.

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Cool, I


The Gentlemen’s Forum / 26

T h e Ge n tle m e n ’s Fo r u m / 26

================================================================ fastseduction.com database fetch, author: Mystery (26) -> view this article on fastseduction.com (for select & copy) ================================================================ author: "Mystery" date: Mon, 07 Sep 1998 04:00:00 GMT newsgroup: alt.seduction.fast subject: The Gentlemen’s Forum We are all artists, all with many tried and true lines, routines, scripts, sequences or patterns. We give ourselves a different TITLE such as player or pick-up artist but are all still gentlemen. Like the devil himself, we are always perfect gentlemen. I would like to hear some that you have used to your advantage. We MAY pick them apart, but you can always CHERRY PICK the ones you feel suit you the best. Keep reasons for them being good or bad short. We can judge for ourselves. Please, no more LAME ones. We prefer unstereotypical womanizer intros and routines.

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INTROs / 27

IN T R O s /27

================================================================ fastseduction.com database fetch, author: Mystery (27) -> view this article on fastseduction.com (for select & copy) ================================================================ author: "Mystery" date: Mon, 07 Sep 1998 04:00:00 GMT newsgroup: alt.seduction.fast subject: INTROs Consider these: OPENING LINES or OPENERS or INTROs or STARTERS or LEAD-INs "Welcome to my world." "I thought you’d like to join the party." "I’m here." "You traverse the stairs with such poise." "Do I have a tan?" - "I really like tan lines. They are sexy to me. Not a farmers tan now, I dont think seeing a beautiful woman with beautiful pale skin and red arms as sexy. For a lobster maybe." "I prefer a cold pepsi over a warm one." ..."I once put a pepsi in the microwave thinking that I would drink a bubbly hot drink, well, all the bubbles dissipated from the drink and it tasted like sugary muddy water. Don’t do it! You’ll start growing hair in places you would prefer remained hairless ... like your tongue." If a girl is on a cel phone and gets off, look down at your beeper and say, "Did you just page me? Sneaky girl! Very good!" I’m tall so if a woman is sitting down I approach her and show her my palm and say "Press my elevator button." She presses my hand and I bend down saying, "going down ... buzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz" until Im crouched at her level. I then say, "My 6 year old niece LOVES that. Wait a sec, how ... old ... are you?" If Im near stairs, I’ll tap a girl on her shoulder and say, "who am I?" I then dramatically jog up the stairs and when I reach the top, I start shadow boxing and dancing and putting arms in the air like rocky and singing, "feeling strong now ... " I then yell down to her, "Hey, look at this." I run all the way back down and I show a girl my eye. see it? I’ve got the eye of the tiger, see?"

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"Look close, can you


Re: Mystery Yes! / 28

R e : M ys te ry Ye s ! / 28

================================================================ fastseduction.com database fetch, author: Mystery (28) -> view this article on fastseduction.com (for select & copy) ================================================================ author: "Mystery" date: Mon, 07 Sep 1998 04:00:00 GMT newsgroup: alt.seduction.fast subject: Re: Mystery Yes! >Eventually the nice guy becomes bitter, that girls don’t appreciate his niceness, and starts to dislike women for being foolish. This is 100% TRUE. My friend Tal is really bitter. Thing is I was too. I remember hating this shit. So I SNAPPED. I had exhausted my excuses NOT to get good at it. Well, I think Tal is reaching the boiling point himself. >What he should do, is take a step back. Analyze the situation, see the different approaches, and compare their results. Being confident, and wanting to seduce women without feeling it’s wrong will make you more succesful. Don’t treat women like godesses, women distrust men who give in to everything just to get laid, they want men who do things their own way. 100% true! Do the approaching and initiate a conversation, but be funny and cool and a tad cocky even. Appear to not care whether you ever see her or not again. That is why openers (or INTROs) must be non sexual. Thank you for the positive testimonial.

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NAMES / 29

N AM ES /29

================================================================ fastseduction.com database fetch, author: Mystery (29) -> view this article on fastseduction.com (for select & copy) ================================================================ author: "Mystery" date: Mon, 07 Sep 1998 04:00:00 GMT newsgroup: alt.seduction.fast subject: NAMES NAMES for WOMEN girls women broads bitches whores scanks sluts chicks holes ladies cunts hoolees ... etc. I was hanging with a guy once who was into picking up girls and he called them all bitches. "Lets go get some bitches." I never told him I felt offended, but I truly did, you know? Another guy called them "Hoolees." Even ’chicks’ is to denote an irrelavance to class and style, which is needed when presenting yourself to a woman. Consider "Women" or "Ladies" but not "Broads" as it brings the image of Casanova to the gutter. "Im going to bags some honeys." Consider, "We’re off to be the wizards" or "lets slay the dragon" or "I off to lind LOVE." By consistantly using the words we would use in FRONT of women while behind the scenes (like in this NG) we prepare ourselves to be better equiped to present the proper classy attitude. Dont get me wrong, in bed, I can swear and fuck like a mink. Im not offended by words, but in order to create a more classy image of our art, we must at some point remove the stereotypical shit. A true artist doesnt use pick-up lines. He uses INTRO SCRIPTING. His INTROs are polished and non-sexist. His ROUTINES are natural, humourous and fun. His attitude towards the subject is that of a PROFESSIONAL. He systematically FINDS the best places and WORKS the rooms. He treats EVERYONE with respect and dignity. Even the other guys. All is fair in love and war, but this war is merely a war GAME. So lets not KILL or HURT anyone on this game of LOVE, but we will be disciplined like in a WARGAME. Think of this game as a paintball game. You know the game will be a four hour session going in. You prepare yourself with WHORE-LURE (purfume - I prefer to call it Seduction Potion) and your gum and your lighter and off you go into the field. Its not a battle, its a game. Paintball is fun to play and while you get a couple bruises, you never die. See, in paintball, when I shoot

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NAMES / 29

someone, I don’t yell out "DIE MOTHER FUCKER DIE!!!!!!!!!" Its a game and not real war. Its fun. So when you find yourself getting all GUNG-YO about the game (all stressed out) fall back and realize it only a 4 our game session and you wont die. Just dont kill others at the same time. Call them Ladies not bitches, in the same way you would call your friends in a paintball match Skins or Colors and not Gooks or the Enemy.

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on ethics / 30

o n e th ics /30

================================================================ fastseduction.com database fetch, author: Mystery (30) -> view this article on fastseduction.com (for select & copy) ================================================================ author: "Mystery" date: Mon, 07 Sep 1998 04:00:00 GMT newsgroup: alt.seduction.fast subject: on ethics BTW: this isnt an ETHICS issue. you have for doing what you do. artist.

Humans are humans, enjoy whatever REASONS I only talking about the IMAGE of a pick-up

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neg hits / 31

n e g h its / 31

================================================================ fastseduction.com database fetch, author: Mystery (31) -> view this article on fastseduction.com (for select & copy) ================================================================ author: "Mystery" date: Mon, 07 Sep 1998 04:00:00 GMT newsgroup: alt.seduction.fast subject: neg hits NEG HITS are retaliation tactics that MUST be used, especially if the woman is a high rating. 9s and 10s must be treated differently than 8s and under.

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The RealDoll / 32

T h e R e alD o ll / 32

================================================================ fastseduction.com database fetch, author: Mystery (32) -> view this article on fastseduction.com (for select & copy) ================================================================ author: "Mystery" date: Mon, 07 Sep 1998 04:00:00 GMT newsgroup: alt.seduction.fast subject: The RealDoll have you seen this thing? Its a fake woman for $5000 bucks or so. I went into a sex shop a few days ago (only because I felt wierd doing it - just to look - you know, to get over the stupid fear I had like an insecurity so I said fuck it and went in). I saw a fake pussy thing and it was $400 for the fake ass pussy thing and I touched it and it DID feel rather convincing I must admit. However, $400 for a fake piece of ass (literally a PIECE of ass). Fuck that. I mean, DONT fuck that. I personally would rather fuck a real girl (costs less too) than a RealDoll. Wacky. Now, I have masterbated to porn before and I guess that is CHEATING the natural system, so a realdoll is only an extension of that. Hmmm, $5000? No fucking way? Even $400? No fucking way. With $400 bucks, I could buy some nice clothes, have some spending money and go out and play the game. Sex is a mutual thing. I enjoy watching lezbian porn with a girlfriend. I loved that.

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Re: on ethics / 33

R e : o n e th ics / 33

================================================================ fastseduction.com database fetch, author: Mystery (33) -> view this article on fastseduction.com (for select & copy) ================================================================ author: "Mystery" date: Mon, 07 Sep 1998 04:00:00 GMT newsgroup: alt.seduction.fast subject: Re: on ethics Hey buddy, Do you have any suggestions on where a good PLACE to go find girls is? Im hunted in clubs in the downtown area, but others say restaurant like places. What do you do? Mystery

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Re: on ethics / 34


================================================================ fastseduction.com database fetch, author: Mystery (34) -> view this article on fastseduction.com (for select & copy) ================================================================ author: "Mystery" date: Mon, 07 Sep 1998 04:00:00 GMT newsgroup: alt.seduction.fast subject: Re: on ethics Interesting suggestions, anything along the lines of the 21 to 29 age group? I agree that a playground would be good but I would prefer a woman who is not a mother. Malls near schools? Yeah, collage girls is a good thing - maybe if I checked out coffee shops near schools. There is a university about 20 minutes from here. I can try that. Cool. And candy shops? Actually, there is a 24 hour candy shop near a club here that is REALLY happening only its not set up to hang out there. Lots of gorgeous women there but they only stop there briefly before or after going to clubs. Good ideas though. Sparked off the idea for my using the net to find eateries NEAR the university. I like that alot. Mystery

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OPENING LINE does work / 35

O P EN IN GLIN Ed o e s wo r k/35

================================================================ fastseduction.com database fetch, author: Mystery (35) -> view this article on fastseduction.com (for select & copy) ================================================================ author: "Mystery" date: Tue, 08 Sep 1998 04:00:00 GMT newsgroup: alt.seduction.fast subject: OPENING LINE does work Im not sure which posts you are replying to but the PULL MY FINGER routine is a VERY GOOD one for girls who are 10s. You see, NOBODY toys with them that way. They are SO USED to men behaving like boys and falling over them that when you come and play that game (in a smiling playful way of course) it is a wonderful NEG HIT in a playful manner. If she calls you an asshole, reply laughingly, "I’m an asshole, but I’m fun. :)" Yo0u are displaying EVERYTHING she WANTS in a man. You are different, yes? You are bold, yes? You treated her normally and not like a goddess, yes? You were having fun with her, yes? Playful? You showed her even though she was HOT, you were willing to walk away. Why would a guy be willing to do that? The only possibility is that he is fucking crazy or that he is used to being with 10s. I am very good at what I do, and YES, I have used this even last Wednesday and I got the # of a 10! I fucking swear. Tal was there as a witness and it was really funny and coy and cool of me because here I am with a fucking 10 and I do this to her. It really brought her down to knowing who she was talking to in a very mild and pleasant manner. What I find interesting in your remark ... >cause if you think any of that works..then you need to see a psychologist....a couple of them wouldnt hurt you..(psychologists that is) if you pick up any girls with those lines..they might just be 1’s or 2’s..but hey you get what you can get :> enjoy your method Is that you ASSUME this wouldnt get you BONUS points in the mind of a 10. Its not the JOKE itself. To a 1 or 2, the joke is barely a chuckle, if that. Its the fact that you perform this on a 10. You have the guts to possibly BLOW it with her. She gets people acting so proper and nervous EVERY DAY. 10s cannot help being beautiful. They are USED to being this way - being a 10 for them is just a matter of fact. Only everyone does not treat her like a normal person because of it. And yet you do. You show her you are a man that doesnt BUY INTO her beauty. In fact, I NEVER compliment a woman’s beauty. EVERY guy has said that before. Every guy and his father! SO instead, compliment her on rarely complimented things, like her class or leadership within her peer-group.

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Re: What does NLP mean?......Anybody!!!! / 36

R e :Wh atd o e sN LP m e an ?......An yb o d y!!!!/36

================================================================ fastseduction.com database fetch, author: Mystery (36) -> view this article on fastseduction.com (for select & copy) ================================================================ author: "Mystery" date: Tue, 08 Sep 1998 04:00:00 GMT newsgroup: alt.seduction.fast subject: Re: What does NLP mean?......Anybody!!!! Neuro Linguistic Programming

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PHONE # scripting / 37

P H O N E#s cr ip tin g/37

================================================================ fastseduction.com database fetch, author: Mystery (37) -> view this article on fastseduction.com (for select & copy) ================================================================ author: "Mystery" date: Tue, 08 Sep 1998 04:00:00 GMT newsgroup: alt.seduction.fast subject: PHONE # scripting Sounds like a wicked night. Notice how its not HARDER to get a better looking girl, only DIFFERENT. You didnt clean out ask for her # which was a good thing. They could always say NO too quickly if you just ask clean out. I understand exactly what happened. You wanted her # but you hadn’t internalized a scripting for getting the # properly so you just went for it. I bet you were rushing in your head to come up with the right words. I think for that sort of thing, you did very good. Consider this for next time >> Always carry a pen and a pad of paper. Tell them that you write down every creative idea you come up with and you have hundreds of these pages at home. Then ask her if she is creative. Give her the pad of paper and the pen and say, "Impress me. Be creative." When she says, "I dont know ..." tell them, "He’s a hint ... start with the first 3 #s." When she writes her # on the pad, look at it and with an impressed attitude say, "Very creative! I like the way you think. We could market this idea and make millions." Then give her yours and add a "call me before you goto bed" on the paper beside your #. Say, "What do you think? Creative?" She will say, "Oh YES, very!! :)"

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Re: A new name / 38

R e : An e wn am e /38

================================================================ fastseduction.com database fetch, author: Mystery (38) -> view this article on fastseduction.com (for select & copy) ================================================================ author: "Mystery" date: Tue, 08 Sep 1998 04:00:00 GMT newsgroup: alt.seduction.fast subject: Re: A new name what is a PLAYBOY then?

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Re: A new name / 39


================================================================ fastseduction.com database fetch, author: Mystery (39) -> view this article on fastseduction.com (for select & copy) ================================================================ author: "Mystery" date: Tue, 08 Sep 1998 04:00:00 GMT newsgroup: alt.seduction.fast subject: Re: A new name Q: What are you? Q: What do you do? We need really coy and cool answers. A: I’m a womanizer - very coy A: I’m a student - sucks A: I’m an illuionist. A:

I guess that means I’m not really here.

I teach men how to seduce women

A: I’m Casanova’s Child

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Get some background info on what women believe / 40

Ge t s o m e b ackg ro u n d in fo o n wh at wo m e n b e lie ve / 40

================================================================ fastseduction.com database fetch, author: Mystery (40) -> view this article on fastseduction.com (for select & copy) ================================================================ author: "Mystery" date: Tue, 08 Sep 1998 04:00:00 GMT newsgroup: alt.seduction.fast subject: Get some background info on what women believe Some ideas or beliefs that you hold in your head will keep you from getting results. EG: If you think being a NICE guy is the RIGHT way to get women, holding this belief will limit you from getting to the belief that will give you better results. In the same way, there may be beliefs in your mind that are not as accurate as others. The NICE GUY belief is nieve and so may other beliefs be. Consider researching The Skeptic’s Dictionary http://wheel.ucdavis.edu/~btcarrol/skeptic/ on the net. Find it on yahoo and read through the whole sight. Since most women believe in most of this stuff, you will find this a valuable resource for conversation scripting. And it might just keep you from some NICE beliefs that limit you from understanding what really WORKS in this universe.

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Re: A new name / 41


================================================================ fastseduction.com database fetch, author: Mystery (41) -> view this article on fastseduction.com (for select & copy) ================================================================ author: "Mystery" date: Tue, 08 Sep 1998 04:00:00 GMT newsgroup: alt.seduction.fast subject: Re: A new name shit we need WAY more thought behind these.

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Re: To Ross Jeffries or SS (Stuttering) / 42

R e :T oR o s s J e ffr ie s o r S S (S tu tte rin g )/42

================================================================ fastseduction.com database fetch, author: Mystery (42) -> view this article on fastseduction.com (for select & copy) ================================================================ author: "Mystery" date: Tue, 08 Sep 1998 04:00:00 GMT newsgroup: alt.seduction.fast subject: Re: To Ross Jeffries or SS (Stuttering) Like all insecurities, if it doesnt bother you then there is no real problem. If a fat guy meets a girl and openly attempts to hide his fat by slouching or wearing pure black (merely a psychological trick) or makes excuses like "Im on a diet" then he looks insecure. On the other hand, if he is fat but dresses very nicely and never mentions it and acts as IF he were a stud and a 10, then he will have MUCH better probibilities with women. Notice fat guys with gorgeous girls. Other lowly fat guys think, what does HE have that I DONT have. The answer: self-security. So if you st-st-studder, you st-st-st-studder. Dont be shy. You arent WEAK genetically because of it. Its only a studder not a fucking thirs arm. If you were to say to them, yeah I st-st-studder. That’s me. Get used to it. Cant handle that, then f-f-f-fuck off. Make jokes about it FAKE some of the studdering in ways that shows you really are comfortable with it. If YOU are comfortable, they will be MORE comfy. If they make a joke, analyze whether they were giving you good natured ribbing or really fucking with you. If its good natured ribbing, you could say, "In my w-w-world, everyone talks like this. You should hear how fucking wacked you s-s-sound to me!!!! :)" It they are truly fucking with you, shrug it off. So much more composure that way. Im 6ft5 and slender so sometimes people call me STRETCH. It used to bother me but now I simply smile and call them SHRIMP. I smile though, this makes it worse because I make it seem like they didnt get to me. IM too VALUABLE to CARE about what YOU think. Some say, "Boy are you TALL!" I always answer, "Thank you." Maybe this is a bad example because being tall has been more advantageous than a hinderance for me, but I hope you see my thought. Fuck em. You studder. smiling NEG HITS.

But you are MORE valuable than they are.

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Give them


I have a boyfriend / 43

I h ave a b o yfrie n d / 43

================================================================ fastseduction.com database fetch, author: Mystery (43) -> view this article on fastseduction.com (for select & copy) ================================================================ author: "Mystery" date: Tue, 08 Sep 1998 04:00:00 GMT newsgroup: alt.seduction.fast subject: I have a boyfriend SHE: I have a boyfriend. YOU: If you think your boyfriend would feel THREATENED by your meeting new people maybe we shouldn’t bother getting to FREELY know eachother. If a girl says "I have a boyfriend", I know that I fucked up and made her feel threatened. This is a reflex answer from women who are shy scared girls. If they really HAVE a girlfriend, it is likely they feel comfortable with that and so will appreciate attention from others. Afterall, she feels secure with her relationship so she won’t just blurt out "I have a boyfriend." If a girl says this, she unlikely HAS a boyfriend but she DOES have a fear of you that must be disarmed.

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BRAGGING / 44

B R AGGIN G /44

================================================================ fastseduction.com database fetch, author: Mystery (44) -> view this article on fastseduction.com (for select & copy) ================================================================ author: "Mystery" date: Tue, 08 Sep 1998 04:00:00 GMT newsgroup: alt.seduction.fast subject: BRAGGING I have a song that I MP3d - sung by a girl who I fucked once about a year and a half ago. If you wanna hear it, Ill send it to you. It’s a dance tune and if you like dance you most likely heard it on the radio. It hit the top ten. I dont want to put it on the server cause its a hassle and I want my privacy and its also 2.1 meg so Ill email it to ya if you request it ok? Its something to do. Something to listen to. She was a great fuck. Loved it. She had a boyfriend but I seducing a performing artist! I have a pic I took about 10 we banged in her hotel room. Ill scan it if you request me cares, but its something to look at. I like to hear others because it actually gives us hope :D

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couldnt resist minutes before to. I know who brag in this NG


Matter of Fact / 45

M atte r o f Fact /45

================================================================ fastseduction.com database fetch, author: Mystery (45) -> view this article on fastseduction.com (for select & copy) ================================================================ author: "Mystery" date: Tue, 08 Sep 1998 04:00:00 GMT newsgroup: alt.seduction.fast subject: Matter of Fact I remember a time when I kissed my girlfriend goodbye, took her car, drove over to George’s house where he kissed his girl bye, we drove over to my other girls house, kissed her hello and george kissed my girl’s bestfriend which was his other girl, hello. We had another friend who also had 2 girls. It was cool because we didnt brag about it, it just WAS. Matter of fact, we had 2 girls each and that was that. No worries. Mystery + 2

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STATISTICS of the HUNT / 46

S T AT IS T ICSo f th e H U N T / 46

================================================================ fastseduction.com database fetch, author: Mystery (46) -> view this article on fastseduction.com (for select & copy) ================================================================ author: "Mystery" date: Tue, 08 Sep 1998 04:00:00 GMT newsgroup: alt.seduction.fast subject: STATISTICS of the HUNT Here is a generalization of the statistics of girl getting as a reference for you to live up to. If you approach one girl a month (some people actually do this) then it is unlikely you will fuck a girl in the next 6 months. If you speed up the pace, things become much better for you. Here are my general statistics when I’m into the game. I go out 3 or 4 times a week as I’m very social and I really love the attention I get being surrounded by women. Its actually a fun thing to do, better than tv or a video game. Lets say conservatively that I go out only 3 times a week though. I go for 4 hour sessions (10pm to 2am usually) at 3 days a week = 12 hours a week of really fun seducing time. I will approach about 3 girls an hour (thats 1 every 20 minutes on average). Thats 12 girls total for the night. Not bad. 12 girls approached in a club (or that could be divided by 2 clubs - I usually club hop once in a night) is a realistic #. Im sure you can easily find 6 girls in a club that are worthy of you. I usually start with the BEST rating girl in the place, unless that situation is hard (she could be in a group of guys) then what I do is go for less rated girls but I get them to surround me infront of the one I want. This way she SEES that Im a ladies man. The positive testimonial she receives silently from these women allows me to enter into her world. She will know Im a fun guy and will be intrigued to find out why all these women flocked around me. This is a consistant approach of mine for the last 1.5 years. I average 1 new approach every 20 minutes. However, of these, 1 out of 3 per hour will not go past the INTRO scripting and I good naturedly abort with dignity (there is really no such thing as failure - there is 0 pain in aborting as this is a well rehearsed contingency plan). So those ones take up little time at all. This leave me more time per hour to chat with the approaches that go past the INTRO scripting. However, on average 1 of these girls per hour will lead to an abort, whether she just doesnt like me, or the situation went down not all that great. Again, I leave with dignity. Im just a guy chatting and having fun. Im not HITTING on anyone. However, 1 out of 3 per hour will pan out to my closing. This means I get on average 4 phone #s a night. Yep, I get realistically anywhere from 1 to 5 a night, but 3 to 5 is more like it for me. 1 is a suck night. 2 ok, 3 good, 4 good and happy. 5 really happy , 6 my fucking day and my top day was 7 phone #s in 4 hours. Average it to 4, or one an hour. Now just cause you have the # doesnt mean you are gonna fuck them. My #s grow stale quickly. Shit happens to reduce the chance of fucking here too. So, out of 12 girls approached in a night (6 girls at each of 2 clubs) only 8 go past the opening and only 4 become options with #s. Of the 4 maybe 2 will pan out to our getting together. That is 6 to 8 get togethers with

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women in a week. Yes, Ive done that, but what Ive also done lately is qualify the girls more and only call the girls I really want. I had 34 #s on my pending list about 3 weeks ago and now Ive rounded it down to less than 8. I just tore it apart. Called them all and if I get a voice mail and I leave a message and they dont call back if I left a message 2 times, I drop the # cause I dont have time for that shit. They would call if they really liked me. So anyway, when its all said and done, I end up with 3 girls who want to fuck me per week and I round that down to making 2 friends who want me but I play hard to get (I invite them out to clubs so I look like a ladies man or just chat on the phone or hang out with them) and I then can fuck one new girl a week. I may not even fuck them. I like blow jobs ALOT. Again, this is an average based on my going out 3 times a week. With this much fun and excitment, sometimes I go out MORE. This week thanks to a car issue, I only went out 2 times. On the first of these 2 sessions, I spent time with one girl only but she was a 10 so it was worth it and I got out late 11pm and left early 1am. So I was happy for the amount of time I played. 1 10 in 2 hehe. (one girls #, who I rate a 10, in 2 hours of game time.) The other time I was late out too but stayed til 2am therefore for a 3 hour session and I attracted 2 girls, one of which I let her go cause her new ’boy’ friend was so lame and I couldnt do it to him he didnt see me coming (I was holding her hands and she was so into me and he just sat there all pouting so I said fuck it, have her. The other girl I got the # though. I could have gotten more but we went to 3 new places that day. One of them sucked, one was dead and the one where I DID get action was just not quality enough to seduce 6 worhty women. So I only got 2 #s this week. Not bad for 2 short nights out though. I also expected less because we were researching new territory. Girls overlap too. I mean, I could have 2 girlfriends who are very close to me and go out only 2 times a week for only an extra fuck every couple weeks. Over the course of the last 6 years, Ive fucked 56 girls (not all FUCKED, but sexual cum shoots so I call them fucking) so that is about 1 a month as an average. Of course some monthes I got no new girls because of long term relationships that only allow 2 girlfriends and no extra nookage. But you get the idea. Its an average. My point to all this? The more doors you knock on ther more will open. If you are wondering why you dont have a girl, its because you stay at home too much. Go out 3 times a week and meet 12 girls a session. Of that, get 4 #s. If you only get 1 # a week, you may be a month or two away from having sex. But if you get12 #s a week, you get to fuck the best of the best AND get a good few up and running into relationships to spread your valuable time between. Have 3 girlfriends. I have had that before.

If morals get in your way with fucking girls this way and you want to have only one permanent girlfriend, I still suggest working hard in the getting #s phase cause many wont turn into rich relationships due to stupid shit like she lives too far or her job gets in the way or shcool or what have you. So get the #s and kiss the girls. You dont have to fuck them. Just obtain options for the future.

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Pick up the pace guys.


Lets here the stories you have to tell.

Mystery

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Re: I have a boyfriend / 47

R e : I h ave a b o yfr ie n d / 47

================================================================ fastseduction.com database fetch, author: Mystery (47) -> view this article on fastseduction.com (for select & copy) ================================================================ author: "Mystery" date: Tue, 08 Sep 1998 04:00:00 GMT newsgroup: alt.seduction.fast subject: Re: I have a boyfriend DUMB SUBJECT HEADING. Before Jimmy the Hun can get to me, I do NOT have a boyfriend! straight man, so please stay away from my hairy ass. *grin* Mystery

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I am a


DESCRIBE your UNIFORM for GAMING / 48

D ES CR IB Eyo u r U N IFO R Mfo rGAM IN G/ 48

================================================================ fastseduction.com database fetch, author: Mystery (48) -> view this article on fastseduction.com (for select & copy) ================================================================ author: "Mystery" date: Tue, 08 Sep 1998 04:00:00 GMT newsgroup: alt.seduction.fast subject: DESCRIBE your UNIFORM for GAMING What do you wear to make yourself feel good for a night out on the town GAMING? I where a suit with a black T shirt to look dressed down a bit. I have gum and a pad and pencil, a lighter, Tommy sprayed on me and my brain completely sober. My shoes are polished and I carry a twinkle in my eye. I where one ring and sometimes a necklace. Both the ring and the necklace get alot of attention - but they arent GAWDY.

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Re: DESCRIBE your UNIFORM for GAMING / 49

R e :D ES CR IB Eyo u rU N IFO R Mfo r GAM IN G/49

================================================================ fastseduction.com database fetch, author: Mystery (49) -> view this article on fastseduction.com (for select & copy) ================================================================ author: "Mystery" date: Tue, 08 Sep 1998 04:00:00 GMT newsgroup: alt.seduction.fast subject: Re: DESCRIBE your UNIFORM for GAMING where=wear - ok, from now on forget any fucking typos ... its an issue of not editing my thought stream typing style. I just type and type and blah blah blah come sout and thats what you get.

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Re: STATISTICS of the HUNT / 50

R e :S T AT IS T ICS o fth e H U N T /50

================================================================ fastseduction.com database fetch, author: Mystery (50) -> view this article on fastseduction.com (for select & copy) ================================================================ author: "Mystery" date: Tue, 08 Sep 1998 04:00:00 GMT newsgroup: alt.seduction.fast subject: Re: STATISTICS of the HUNT Sometimes there is no challenge anymore and I just have to abort the pursuit. Its like playing pool with someone and you are just cleaning the table and you finally realise the over player is just a shmuck. Its not fun anymore if the challenge is gone. In fact, Ive felt this with guys who thought their ’style’ was so good for picking up women and they get all testosteroneee and challenge me and say, ok, Im gonna clean town. as the nights progresses, Im into my 3rd passionate kiss and 5th # and they are still trying to chat up the fat drunk polish girl who doesnt speak a word of english. I dont feel good winning anymore at that time. I feel sad for the guy ’cause here is all ’talk’ and really I know he has problems and is only one of those LAMER nice guys. I think there are many NICE guys who are pick-up artists. But most NICE GUYS are also LAMERS! I think it isnt a matter of not being NICE that gets you results. Its a matter of how fucking LAME you are (how chicken, how full of excuses about how your own style works.) I hear people tell me everyone has a style. I say, fine. I agree. But then they say, "My style works for me, your style works for you." And then I notice thye havent had a girlfriend in 6 months. What the fuck is that all about. If you dont have OPTIONS with which to fuck from, then your system ISNT working. How long is your list of #s? Honestly, I spend just as much time in a club as any other guy spends in the club. We arrive at about the same time and we leave at about the same time. Im not the first to get there nor the last to leave. But Im pretty sure Im the guy who leaves the place with the most OPTIONS. Definition: OPTION. And option is not a phone # on a piece of paper. This paper is merely a representation of aOPTION to fuck. The OPTION is the attraction of you that the woman holds in her head. Hey, this may actually be HER option.

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Re: DESCRIBE your UNIFORM for GAMING / 51

R e :D ES CR IB Eyo u rU N IFO R Mfo r GAM IN G/51

================================================================ fastseduction.com database fetch, author: Mystery (51) -> view this article on fastseduction.com (for select & copy) ================================================================ author: "Mystery" date: Tue, 08 Sep 1998 04:00:00 GMT newsgroup: alt.seduction.fast subject: Re: DESCRIBE your UNIFORM for GAMING I carry 2 - I never expect to fuck more than once if I’m just out on the hunt. The other is an emergency rubber - just in case. :D

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Re: Mystery is a pediatrist / 52

R e : M ys te ry is a p e d iatr is t / 52

================================================================ fastseduction.com database fetch, author: Mystery (52) -> view this article on fastseduction.com (for select & copy) ================================================================ author: "Mystery" date: Tue, 08 Sep 1998 04:00:00 GMT newsgroup: alt.seduction.fast subject: Re: Mystery is a pediatrist If you would consider going to The Skeptics Dictionary, you would discover this is a SKEPTICAL viewpoint to magical nonsense. Oh, and if you check out http://webhome.idirect.com/~magicman/levitation.htm You will discover a rather interesting technique for impressing a lady in a club. I think you must have surfed the post and not fully understood my ramblings. I claim no secret knowledge.

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================================================================ fastseduction.com database fetch, author: Mystery (53) -> view this article on fastseduction.com (for select & copy) ================================================================ author: "Mystery" date: Tue, 08 Sep 1998 04:00:00 GMT newsgroup: alt.seduction.fast subject: Re: Mystery is a pederast Hey Lance, I am a scientist, but women generally think of science as merely a religion. They know that science ’delivers the goods’ but arent really into running their lifes by reason. They prefer emotions. That is why they believe in such crazy shit. By learning what they may believe in (see the skeptics dictionary) you can tell them shit that they believe in and connect this way. Thats what I meant - I was attempting to be politically correct with reference to peoples beliefs but fuck it, Im not a politictian ... God doesnt exist. There is no evidence to support the existance of God or any other supernatural idea. Science refutes the supernatural. The only way to believe in God is to deny that the lack of evidence could mean anything, leaving reason and therefore relying on irrational FAITH. However, tell this truth to a girl and you wont be gettin’ any nookage. So one must LIE about it. Wear a cross on a chain under your shirt. Fuck, wear a pentacle too. Then, depending on the girls beliefs, pull out the right one. 95% of americans are scientifically illiterate. They are into astrology, and new age and all that weird shit. Some of the hottest women have the most fucked up beliefs. Notice how most Message Therapists are into new age shit. Why? Because they want to HEAL people and they think that a fucking massage will do more than give a short term state change *we get horny around babes*. Reiki is the study of so called energy of the body and the blah blah blah and these girls are fucked up and believe in this shit because they choose what to believe based on whats feels good, rather than a rigorous and skeptical approach of systematic investigation. So, they believe that levitation is possible. Then show them a levitation and reap the rewards of such a connection. http://webhome.idirect.com/~magicman/levitation.htm Get it?

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MORE INTROs / 54

M O R EIN T R O s /54

================================================================ fastseduction.com database fetch, author: Mystery (54) -> view this article on fastseduction.com (for select & copy) ================================================================ author: "Mystery" date: Tue, 08 Sep 1998 04:00:00 GMT newsgroup: alt.seduction.fast subject: MORE INTROs INTRO Scripts: Whats your name? Oh, may i call you sally? you can call me mr. poo-pee pants. - great is the girl is a 10! if i follow you home, will you keep me? so how do you like me so far? the voices in my head told me to come talk to you. would you like to kiss me or should i apologize? hello suzy, your mommy couldnt make it this afternoon. she asked me to pick you up and take you home. my thats a pretty dress. would you like some candy? Ive never driven a cadillac ... whats your name? - too sexual for an opening you have an interesting figure. - good if the babe is a 10! shh! people can see us! you drank too much last night didnt you? waiting for the subway - dont fall onto the tracks - youll make me late for work

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Im not bragging to those who know this lifestyle to b... / 55

Im n o t b r ag g in g to th o s e wh o kn o wth is life s tyle to b ... /55

================================================================ fastseduction.com database fetch, author: Mystery (55) -> view this article on fastseduction.com (for select & copy) ================================================================ author: "Mystery" date: Tue, 08 Sep 1998 04:00:00 GMT newsgroup: alt.seduction.fast subject: Im not bragging to those who know this lifestyle to be matter of fact >As for Mystery, I am not really interested in his claims. I could claim to have had 100 lovers or I could claim to be a virgin, there is simply no way to verify either claim, so I just ignore it. Even supposing he is not at all vulnerable to the temptation to exagerate his own prowess, having 56 sex partners does not really say much. He probably never has had a long term relationship, and I would be suprised if many of these partners stayed for Breakfast let alone for several weeks. Thanks to my anonymity, I dont care to lie. I AM afterall in alt.seduction.fast to hob nob with other pick-up artists. Its funny how this sounds like a lie. really, 56 women is not an impossible task. This isnt rocket science - its human nature. I have also had many long term relationships (you keep polarizing the dynamics of a person). I have had a few one night stands, but the majority of my relationships were RELATIONSHIPS. I lived with a girl for 2 years, lived with another for 3 months (went with her for a year). I had another 13 month relationship. Ive been asked to be married 3 times - marriage is a religious thing that I dont adhere too like our popular christian ethic biased north american culture. I respect and truly love my girlfriends. Yes, I have gone with more than one at a time. And yes I loved them equally as much. Its like having two children... which do you love more? >Men who want an ethical woman are relegated to choosing sexually undesirable women. In that sense I am different from Aaron in my beliefs because I consider it looks-specific. Ethics? Its a simple matter of qualification. If a quality man meets a quality woman, they will share time with eachother for a while. They will then break up and find another to share time with. Life is dynamic this way - and natural. Its sex for pleasure and intimacy, not for children. Sex for children involves paor-bonding for child rearing purposes. We must KNOW the difference here. Consider appreciating the dynamics of relationships base on the entire species as a whole. Any small sampling is a bias to understanding the true nature of man. Globally, men cheat. Globally, pair-bonding lasting on average 4 years. Marriage is only a ceremony, not a natural law of nature. People split up and find new lovers. 1 out of every 6 women fuck around. 3 out of every 8 men fuck around. That is the reality of it. To try to idealize your life away from the reality of these facts is to be a man or a woman who does not have sex. You dont get sex if you are a NICE GUY and allow to be stepped on. This is a dog eat dog world. Survival of the fittest. Learn to seduce women and you will not be left behind.

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ONLINE seduction ADDENDUM / 56

O N LIN Es e du ctio n AD D EN D U M56 /

================================================================ fastseduction.com database fetch, author: Mystery (56) -> view this article on fastseduction.com (for select & copy) ================================================================ author: "Mystery" date: Tue, 08 Sep 1998 04:00:00 GMT newsgroup: alt.seduction.fast subject: ONLINE seduction ADDENDUM BTW: the IDIOT AGAIN text on the .jpg was not MINE. That was already on the pic. Her sister had placed it there. This is the very pic that got me interested in emailing her.

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Re: Im not bragging to those who know this lifestyle ... / 57

R e : Im n o t b r ag g in g to th o s e wh o kn o wth is life s tyle ... /57

================================================================ fastseduction.com database fetch, author: Mystery (57) -> view this article on fastseduction.com (for select & copy) ================================================================ author: "Mystery" date: Wed, 09 Sep 1998 04:00:00 GMT newsgroup: alt.seduction.fast subject: Re: Im not bragging to those who know this lifestyle to be matter of fact I do not feel that having 1 new girl a month as an average is an impossibility, do you? How many girls has the reader of this post slept with? Is 56 all that much? I know guys who topped 100 and that isnt impossible either. Is it?

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Re: A new name / 58


================================================================ fastseduction.com database fetch, author: Mystery (58) -> view this article on fastseduction.com (for select & copy) ================================================================ author: "Mystery" date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 04:00:00 GMT newsgroup: alt.seduction.fast subject: Re: A new name I love the way your brain wroks. subtlety

This is VERY good.

:)

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Thanks for the


Re: The Gentlemen’s Forum / 59

R e :T h e Ge n tle m e n ’s Fo r u m /59

================================================================ fastseduction.com database fetch, author: Mystery (59) -> view this article on fastseduction.com (for select & copy) ================================================================ author: "Mystery" date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 04:00:00 GMT newsgroup: alt.seduction.fast subject: Re: The Gentlemen’s Forum >"I noticed you from over there and you don’t seem to be having as much fun as you should be..." similar to "I thought you’d like to join the party?" for an INTRO. Its hasnt really been the best intro, but it is more valid than "come here often."

>"What a great outfit for dancing..care to try it out?" This may be a good way to ask a girl to dance if you WISH to dance with her. Little issues are ... she can answer with a "no thank-you." Consider devising questions that cannnot be answered with a yes or a no. As well, asking someone to dance is not that much a a good thing for several reasons. Firstly, it’s too obvious that you wish to dance with her not because you enjoy dancing so much as because you wish to court her. Too stereotypical. Also, dancing wastes alot of time. While you are dancing, you could be TALKING to her. If she asks you to dance, go for it, but only ask HER to dance if she looks at the dance floor alot while you are talking to her. But then, she isnt so interested as to want to talk with you so maybe she isnt interested in you anyway?!! Formal courting sucks because it sets up classic behaviors - well defined ROLES each must play. Forget formal situations. Dancing, formal dates, etc. Dont buy her a beer or any other stereotypical mating ritual until AFTER you know they are interested. Candles and incense is good to burn in your room if a interested girl comes over, but if she is just hanging, these things will tip her off as your immediate intentions and shell feel uncomfortable. >Here is my favorite all time any situation line..."What are you looking for?" The first response is almost always "huh?" or "nothing." To which I reply, "Everybody is looking for something, unless...you’ve found it. My name’s ______, what’s yours?"

Love it - very natural interactive scripting. From here you must IMMEDIATELY begin a main body script to continue the flow. FORMAT: find approach INTRO script main body script #1 main body script #2

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main body script #3 CLOSE leave This format is for EVERY girl you wish to meet.

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Re: Shes HERE! / 60

R e : S h e s H ER E! / 60

================================================================ fastseduction.com database fetch, author: Mystery (60) -> view this article on fastseduction.com (for select & copy) ================================================================ author: "Mystery" date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 04:00:00 GMT newsgroup: alt.seduction.fast subject: Re: Shes HERE! go away shrug

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Re: ARE YOU FUCKING SERIOUS??? / 61

R e :AR EYO U FU CKIN GS ER IO U S ???/61

================================================================ fastseduction.com database fetch, author: Mystery (61) -> view this article on fastseduction.com (for select & copy) ================================================================ author: "Mystery" date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 04:00:00 GMT newsgroup: alt.seduction.fast subject: Re: ARE YOU FUCKING SERIOUS??? hehe :) That poster is in my friend Tal’s room. (Hes a guy) We were all there and his friend steve had his camcorder over.

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================================================================ fastseduction.com database fetch, author: Mystery (62) -> view this article on fastseduction.com (for select & copy) ================================================================ author: "Mystery" date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 04:00:00 GMT newsgroup: alt.seduction.fast subject: Re: attn: mystery >Mystery is a story teller, a fraud, or an SS shill paid by Ross himself. Hey I offered the chance to see Mystery in action since we both live in Toronto. You are on Jimmy. If you agree to disgression. Im going to the World Premier Party of Hell’s Kitchen starring Rosanna Arquette tonight. I got invited by the film makers and I intend on Meeting Angelina Jolie, she played in Hackers (full lips) and Gigi (the one about the model - she starred in it as the model). I intend on meeting her AND chatting with her. DO NOT RAIN ON MY PARADE. As far as you and I are concerned, you and I DO NOT KNOW EACHOTHER. Fair? If you agree to this, Ill tell you where its at tonight. You hold back and watch me work. You’ll get a chance to show your stuff too. But as I am inviting you to MY scene, I ask that you respect my wishes and lay back and do not step on my toes. Remember, I do not COME OFF as a pick-up artist. That is the wonderful part of the art. I come off as a fun humourous intelligent man who has many friends and enjoys life and social circles. If you come out dont expect to fuck up my image by your presence. Watch and shut the fuck up. Fair? Then come on down Jimmy. I’m sure we would have lots of shit to talk about anyway - quietly. If Im a wiener, tell everyone in newsgroups then. We have many things in common Im sure. Be cool and dont fuck up my scene ok? If you cant make it, we’ll make it another time. All my scripts to women are MIND oriented. I talk about the mind and the astonishing exploits with which it can do. That’s my particular novelty. Im an intellectual and reach them emotionally. I give them state changes. I wear suits, but casual. I expect you to wear a similar style and not embarrass me by wearing punk hair and leather jackets. OK? They wont let you in if you are wearing jeans anyway I gather. I only found SS info a week ago when I arrived here in NG. Thats how I came across it. I typed in seduction into the newgroup search for the hell of it and found this NG. Thats it. I have an interest in seduction so I typed it in and there you go. SS sounds appealing though. Watch me work Jimmy. And I’ll watch you work. Where are YOU going to be? I wont step on your toes, promise. Ill just shut up and watch. Fair?

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================================================================ fastseduction.com database fetch, author: Mystery (63) -> view this article on fastseduction.com (for select & copy) ================================================================ author: "Mystery" date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 04:00:00 GMT newsgroup: alt.seduction.fast subject: Re: attn: mystery oh Jimmy, AND ... if you were wrong about me and I am in fact an acceptable role-model for pick-up artists, then I want you to admit it. Be honest and I’ll give you the chance to prove me wrong. Can you think of a better challenge? I would think of a "WHO GETS MORE #S" contest but not at the premier. I cant systematically go through there - my intention is to meet only one girl --- angelina jolie. Thats it. So, we can make fun contests somplace else.

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================================================================ fastseduction.com database fetch, author: Mystery (64) -> view this article on fastseduction.com (for select & copy) ================================================================ author: "Mystery" date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 04:00:00 GMT newsgroup: alt.seduction.fast subject: Re: attn: mystery by the way, I fucked a girl off the net last night. I swear - she drove 6 hours to see me. I have a pic of her - she gave it to me as a gift. Ill scan it at my friends when I can.

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The NET girl / 65

T h e N ET g irl /65

================================================================ fastseduction.com database fetch, author: Mystery (65) -> view this article on fastseduction.com (for select & copy) ================================================================ author: "Mystery" date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 04:00:00 GMT newsgroup: alt.seduction.fast subject: The NET girl Well, it happened. I met a girl off the net. She came over. She got here at 3am. I was lying in bed goofing on my computer when she arrived. I had candles and incense burning. She came in and immediately sat on my bed with me as I told her that she just came out of my computer to me. We talked nicely for about 20 minutes (could have been 5) and then kissed. We fucked til 7am! I got 2 blows and they were fucking good. I mean good. I have a pic of her that she gave me and Ill scan it sometime. It was fun. She was different than I expected but as she was getting a parking pass I used binoculars on my balcony to see if she was fat. I was relieved. She was voluptuous, almost a tad more honestly, but the mood was right and the excitement of a stranger was wild. She looked ... and I fucking swear to you ... she looked (her face) exactly (I mean fucking EXACTLY) like sigorney weaver from Ghostbusters. 100%. If you were to do a glamourshots of this girl, you ould think it was sigorney. The body was different (unfortunately) but she was fun. The next day we slept til 1pm and then, get this, then she took ME to dinner. We went to an otooles and she paid for me!!! fuck eh? we returned to my place and she bent over to get some stuff off the floor and I came up behind her and started to rub her ass. We got all hot and horny and we then fucked doggie style. We then went to a party later on (well, a get together) and were all cuddly and at 10pm she said by from there and returned to her city 6 hours away from here. I have a boner thinking about it. Get this too: (I swear Im not lying Jimmy): While I was in bed with her, another girlfriend called (the girl who I hung with and picked up girls with the last time I went out) and she has never been with a girl but really wants to. I told her on the phone while the net girl was massaging my balls that the net girl was bi. So my phone friend said, "Im coming over." I actually said no. I did this for several reasons. One, I had already cum. Two. I was so fucking tired from not getting enough sleep. Three, it was full broad daylight and I prefer it dark and romantic like. Four, I dont think they would have liked eachother. Phone girl told me long time ago she likes blonds, and net girl doesnt like black. So I just brushed it off. I would have considered it if we had time, but I had to get ready to head to the party and net girl had to leave soon anyway. Oh well, its a set up for another time Im sure. I then went out after this little get together to a club. I saw an asian who was a fucking 9.5 and tall and sophisticated but I staled out. I didnt approach her and she knew I was there wanting to. She then turned away as if I was not her type and she didnt want me to approach her. I KNEW if I approached her after this fuck up, I would look like a fucking idiot so I didnt. To be honest, I feel kinda stupid for not at LEAST TRYING. I just felt like it was a wrong thing. I never saw her smile. I even saw a guy approach her and she just didnt smile or acknowledge him. So I didnt want to be the NEXT guy. So I didnt and we bailed. I still feel like I should

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The NET girl / 65

have tried SOMETHING though - fuck. We went to another club and it wasnt really happening the way I like either. There was one girl at a table and I approached her, chatted a bit and she said something as a reponse to a joke ... "If you can do that Ill suck your cock." Now, on screen this might sound interesting but it REALLY put me off. Im an intelligent man talking cool and she says this to me. It was trashy. It turned me off. My friends were leaving so I said, "Pleasure meeting you." I left and ate from food with my friend Tal and went home where I smelled the net girls perfume in my room. I cant smell it right now - I guess my brain is used to it right now and shut off the sense. So, thats it. the net DOES work to get laid. This is the second girl to fuck me from the net!!! Im not even TRYING to get them off the net. Its just a wonderful BONUS. Sigorney Weaver. I never looked at her as a sex object. I prefer other types I guess but you know what? That isnt soo bad, is it? Im looking at her picture right now - it doesnt capture her 100%, but she DOES look like sigorney weaver by about 85%. In real life, WAY close. Net girl has the SAME smile and everything. Ill post the pic one day soon I guess.

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================================================================ fastseduction.com database fetch, author: Mystery (66) -> view this article on fastseduction.com (for select & copy) ================================================================ author: "Mystery" date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 04:00:00 GMT newsgroup: alt.seduction.fast subject: Re: attn: mystery And for my safety - in case you ARE a fuck up (we cant tell), by buddy Tal will be with me. He is a trained bouncer for real. Nobody would fuck with him.

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================================================================ fastseduction.com database fetch, author: Mystery (67) -> view this article on fastseduction.com (for select & copy) ================================================================ author: "Mystery" date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 04:00:00 GMT newsgroup: alt.seduction.fast subject: Re: Mystery is a pederast The FORCE! Oh man, you are so RIGHT. Its a modern mix of both science and religion. I refer to it often. Ok, I now KNOW you are a player. You understand how to connect. I use it as a metaphor when talking about the mind and all the connection stuff. cool

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Re: Mystery..I mean Erick you fuck nut. I thought I k... / 68

R e : M ys te r y..I m e an Erick yo u fu ck n u t. I th o u g h t I k... /68

================================================================ fastseduction.com database fetch, author: Mystery (68) -> view this article on fastseduction.com (for select & copy) ================================================================ author: "Mystery" date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 04:00:00 GMT newsgroup: alt.seduction.fast subject: Re: Mystery..I mean Erick you fuck nut. I thought I knew you... haaaaa, thats so funny! :) you project here in NG.

come on down tonight.

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You arent at all the guy


Re: Mystery..I mean Erick you fuck nut. I thought I k... / 69

R e : M ys te r y..I m e an Erick yo u fu ck n u t. I th o u g h t I k... /69

================================================================ fastseduction.com database fetch, author: Mystery (69) -> view this article on fastseduction.com (for select & copy) ================================================================ author: "Mystery" date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 04:00:00 GMT newsgroup: alt.seduction.fast subject: Re: Mystery..I mean Erick you fuck nut. I thought I knew you... oh, and its not Erick

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Re: on ethics / 70


================================================================ fastseduction.com database fetch, author: Mystery (70) -> view this article on fastseduction.com (for select & copy) ================================================================ author: "Mystery" date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 04:00:00 GMT newsgroup: alt.seduction.fast subject: Re: on ethics I can this backfire though.

It seems too OBVIOUS.

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Re: on ethics / 71


================================================================ fastseduction.com database fetch, author: Mystery (71) -> view this article on fastseduction.com (for select & copy) ================================================================ author: "Mystery" date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 04:00:00 GMT newsgroup: alt.seduction.fast subject: Re: on ethics I actually MET him once. He’s a short young guy who doesnt really get all that much attention. Not a personal crack, just a personality trait. I recall he was hanging with some girls though which is good, but he was just ... a friend as I remember it. They were all youngin’s.

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R e :S T AT IS T ICS o fth e H U N T /72

================================================================ fastseduction.com database fetch, author: Mystery (72) -> view this article on fastseduction.com (for select & copy) ================================================================ author: "Mystery" date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 04:00:00 GMT newsgroup: alt.seduction.fast subject: Re: STATISTICS of the HUNT Hey, Im considering GOING to NY.

Odd you said that.

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================================================================ fastseduction.com database fetch, author: Mystery (73) -> view this article on fastseduction.com (for select & copy) ================================================================ author: "Mystery" date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 04:00:00 GMT newsgroup: alt.seduction.fast subject: Re: The Gentlemen’s Forum Yeah I was thinking about posting main body scripting stuff, but these are big so Ill need to become more motivated for that. I really have to think about what I talk about sometime.

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Re: on ethics / 74


================================================================ fastseduction.com database fetch, author: Mystery (74) -> view this article on fastseduction.com (for select & copy) ================================================================ author: "Mystery" date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 04:00:00 GMT newsgroup: alt.seduction.fast subject: Re: on ethics The night is young Jimmy, let’s sieze this evening and get into some adventure. What do you say?

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================================================================ fastseduction.com database fetch, author: Mystery (75) -> view this article on fastseduction.com (for select & copy) ================================================================ author: "Mystery" date: Sat, 12 Sep 1998 04:00:00 GMT newsgroup: alt.seduction.fast subject: Re: The Gentlemen’s Forum >You gots ta dance, yo! Even if you can’t dance...it is good to learn some basic swing steps...they can be adapted to most music. Yes I totally agree. This I admit is a weakness of mine. I can alternative dance but its very one only dancing (ya know, for yourself). Swing dance? Yesterday I went to a swing party and I can understand how learning swing dancing can help you dance in other situations. thank you for the insight. Very good. I will get a girl to teach me swing. I never thought about it, but it would be VERY COOL to learn to dance Swing well. I never even thought of that. what a simple thing to really help in girl getting. Fuck, I didnt think of that. >Well, that depends on the scene....I was thinking of the rave scene in particular. Asking somebody to dance is a great way to mirror and check out her body language...a good in. ok, cool. Yeah in a rave, its a harder scene to connect through talk because of drugs, the loudness and EVERYBODY is dancing. >Unless you have quite a lot of incense around already...lots of burnt sticks etc. So it looks like something you do anyway. agreed >I’m still working on formating, but I’ve had success even with using bits of patterns. Im going to think of my format more and get it down into a complete system one day. Very helpful post.

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================================================================ fastseduction.com database fetch, author: Mystery (76) -> view this article on fastseduction.com (for select & copy) ================================================================ author: "Mystery" date: Sat, 12 Sep 1998 04:00:00 GMT newsgroup: alt.seduction.fast subject: Re: Mystery is a pederast could you post a scripting sample?

what would you say?

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Re: A new name / 77


================================================================ fastseduction.com database fetch, author: Mystery (77) -> view this article on fastseduction.com (for select & copy) ================================================================ author: "Mystery" date: Sat, 12 Sep 1998 04:00:00 GMT newsgroup: alt.seduction.fast subject: Re: A new name >Try this....during your next conversation with some friend...only ask questions. No statements of any kind, just questions. See just how much info you can get, while not giving any. See if they notice. You would not BELIEVE how helpful it was for me to consciously DECIDE to ask questions with a girl tonight. It helped TREMENDOUSLY. I learned so much. It sounds so fucking simple but I talked SO much usually that I didnt get the info I needed so I could use that info back to her. The girl said she was a therapist and I said, "Why is that important to you?" She gave me so many emotions she feels from it. I just used that to create a connection. It was so good. I fucking ROCKED. Ill tell the story in detail in a post.

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================================================================ fastseduction.com database fetch, author: Mystery (78) -> view this article on fastseduction.com (for select & copy) ================================================================ author: "Mystery" date: Sat, 12 Sep 1998 04:00:00 GMT newsgroup: alt.seduction.fast subject: Re: attn: mystery Turns out she wasnt there. FUCK! But, Rosanna Arquette WAS which was cool. I didnt bother introing myself ... because she wasnt good looking for one, but also more importantly because she was walking across the room when a guy stopped her and she seemed somehow bothered by it. It wasnt her fault, he sorta grabbed her arm which was lame. She seemed cool and a local network was there and interviewed her. Too bad Jolie wasnt there. She is FINE! I even set it up so that when I would have had a chance to meet her, I would have had a photographer tell her she HAD to meet me and I was surrounded by my two guy friends and 2 girls we met there. It would have been cool and I wasa waiting for her appearance. I would have really rocked. The good news? I got another girl. Ill post the details in a main story post.

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Re: Blow Job Pattern / 79

R e : B lo w J o b P atte r n / 79

================================================================ fastseduction.com database fetch, author: Mystery (79) -> view this article on fastseduction.com (for select & copy) ================================================================ author: "Mystery" date: Sat, 12 Sep 1998 04:00:00 GMT newsgroup: alt.seduction.fast subject: Re: Blow Job Pattern yes, please post.

Or mp3 the tape and drop it on a server.

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M ys te r y’s

FILM

Mystery’s FILM PREMIERE PARTY / 80

P R EM IER EP AR T Y/ 80

================================================================ fastseduction.com database fetch, author: Mystery (80) -> view this article on fastseduction.com (for select & copy) ================================================================ author: "Mystery" date: Sat, 12 Sep 1998 04:00:00 GMT newsgroup: alt.seduction.fast subject: Mystery’s FILM PREMIERE PARTY Alright gentlemen, At 9pm I readied and went to meet my friend Tal and his buddy Action Fighter downtown. We ate at a cool food joint and discussed the chance of my meeting the famous Angelina Jolie from Hackers. We discussed and planned. It was my party invite and I invited my friends so I had dibs on angelina. We agreed on that. they said that since I was the guy who worked his ass off to get good, it was only fitting that I landed her in order complete my training as Action Lover. Se we get to the place for 11:20pm. Action Fighter couldnt get in ’cause the ticket was for only 2 so I asked the guy if I could go up and find the film-makers to get my friend in and they let me in (I think it was my confident and PLEASANT demeaner.) We go in and I meet a couple of people I knew. We walked around and the place slowly picked up over time. A photographer I knew through a biz aquaintance was there and he took some pics of me. Me, Action fighter and Tal just waited around and nothing happened for the first hour. We just looked busy and chatted and hung which was tough to do. We saw Rosanna Arquette there but I didnt intro myself to her. We were waiting for Jolie to come. I thought, when she comes, I have to be all set up to meet her. I figured, first, she must be intro’d to me, and second, I must have women around me to appear as positive testamonial to my coolness. So I intro’d myself to 2 women who were not my type at all just to get something going around me. This is known as BASING. This is where you start a BASE of women around yourself to DRESS yourself in female-atude. One of them liked Tal too so he enjoyed the yak. Better than hanging alone waiting for the cream of the crop to still arrive. Well, Jolie wasnt coming so I dumped the 2 girl BASE and walked around. Jolie NEVER arrived which sucks because I asked the photographer to get Jolie to come and meet me. that would have been cool because she would have felt like ’I’ was important enough for her to want to meet ME. He would say to her that he wanted to take a picture of the two of us and I would be surrounded by several people and the HYPE would be around ME. If only she were THERE. Mind you, Im not pissed or anything. It was a longshot worth trying for. She could have had a boyfriend or been married but at least I went there.

Ok, so I end up meeting a couple cool black dudes and we shoot the shit for a bit. They were sorta a second BASE. Tal, Action Fighter (AF) and I go get a drink at the complementary bar. We only ordered coke because drinking lames out the brain for the sharpness required for the game. None of us drink. The ’drink to loosen up’ excuse is invalid from a scientific standpoint. Playing the game is INCLUDES over-riding your emotions. See, beautiful women by there presence will create a STATE-CHANGE in you. They dont have to talk, they just have to BE THERE. You will get nervous and horny and weird. This feeling will make you behave like EVERY other guy. This state-change is an indicator that the woman is WORTHY of your

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attentions. However, you cant let this STRONG EMOTION alter your approach. This is an internal issue that happens on TOP of the external issue of attracting her. Its a BITCH of an emotion too though because it makes you WANT her so bad that you will be NICE to her. What the NICE GUYS dont realise is that only men who are around women alot dont have this state-change and therefore do not behave like horny-toads. So you must act like you dont FEEL this inside and suppress the feeling. Good news is, when you ARE around women alot, the feeling gets weaker. You can control this STATE-CHANGE as you can nervousness before public speaking and such. You just ignore the feeling. Only YOU know you have this internal issue. Hiding it is the big thing. When you are drunk, it removes this feeling, but it ALSO removes your sharpness and focus. Ok, so Tal, AF and I go for another walk about in the place. We chat with our 2 girl BASE and Tal gets attention from one of em. They are not WORTHY but they DO invite us to their home party tommorrow. I could tell that this invite thing was designed for Tal. The girl must really like her. She isnt WORTHY for him though. But hey, we plan on going. See, they actually had already written the directions for us when we returned to them. Weird but cool. The other one said, "There will be lots of single women there for Tal." I replied, "Ill try to convince Tal that that is important to him." I was playing coy for him. They leave the party and we move on. There are 2 very attractive ladies near the speaker. I approach them and initiate my attack. Right behind them is a producer who was listening in and he gives me his card. In minutes I have the girls and this producer dude follow me to where my BASE 2 of the 2 black dudes are. We all chit chat and laugh and have fun for about 10 minutes and then I ask the blond girl (call her Tat here in NG) to come with me to a quieter area. I do this because it is a wonderful controlling and leadership display. I also got her away from the rest so only she and I could talk. But I looked cool to her because the producer thought I was cool and showed it, shaking my hand several times and the 2 black dudes were cool to me too. Anyway, we go to a quieter place but she asks if her friends could come. I say sure. So Me, Tat and 2 other cute girls go and sit somewhere else in the place. Oh by then, AF already left to goto his girlfriend at home. He’s not into the game, just appreciates what I do and watches me work. Ok, so I talk to Tat (who is at least a 9 if not more (24 yr old beauty - a therapist) and the other 2 sorta dissipate for a while because they know Tat likes me. We talk for an hour. Our talk includes connecting, how the mind is incredible, we talk about cosmology (an interest of mine) in an emotional way, and other stuff. She wore a black dress which was cut above the knee and her body was fucking awesome man! fuck! I treated her like a friend. I did the pull my finger script on her and it really put me in control. Tal wanted to leave so I asked her for a ride home and she agreed so he took off. We will goto that party tommorrow. Ok, so I told Tat that I had a few rules in case she ever called me (I didnt give her my #, I just told her my rules.) TOLD her these. Swear.

I actually

1. if you call my pager, dont leave a pager # 2. if you call my pager, rather than saying via voice mail, "Hey, call me", instead type in your # or I wont call you. 3. If I call you and you cant talk, dint say, "can you call me back?" I wont. Instead, say, "I’ll call you back." And then actually CALL me back. 4. if I call you, when you find out Im ME, instead of saying, "Hey, what’s up?" I would prefer you saying, "Oh HI sweetie? How nice of you to call!"

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I told her I would do the same in return.

"Is all this fair?"

She agreed.

I had the chance to make her friend like me too. I got Tats friends respect when she noticed I didnt liet Tat shit on me. I gave Tat rules and basically behaved like a man. I was confident and in control and lead the conversation. I listened and asked questions too which gave me valuable info with regards to her VALUES. Great insights I learned this week here in NG. Man, has NG helped me. Thanks guys BTW. I also told her that I would NOT ask for her #. Why? I said, "because Im not like every other guy. You will have to WORK to get it off me. AND, if you say, can I have your #, I wont find that creative enough so I will actually say NO. You will need to be creative, fair?" She says, "ok Ill need to think about this." Ok so we went to her car and I made jokes about her CLUB. You know, The CLUB, that bar on the steering wheel. Ok, so she drove me all the way home and that really allowed us to get to feel friendshipy comfortable. Her friend was in the back asking me questions. Like she was qualifying me for her friend. I believe I passed all the tests nicely. Halfway home I mention, "you realise if you dont ask for my # I will say, "pleasure meeting you" and just get out of the car." She says, "I was thinking about how I am going to ask." When we got infront of my place she didnt say anything but I could tell she really was going to so as a joke I said, really quickly, "pleasure meeting you" and opened the door and got out." "Wait", she said.

I sat back down, door open.

she said, "can I have your number?"

"Yes?

What?"

I said, "No! boring.

try again."

"oh come on, dont be difficult. just gimmee your #." I looked back at her friend and said, "If some guy said, "oh come on, dont be difficult. just gimmee your #." Would you? She said no. "This wont do. Try again. Be creative and sincere." I was toying with her and actually making her nervous about losing me. "I would very much like to have your #", she said. I said, "Why?" "Because I want it.

Just give it to me."

"NO", I said, "why do you want my number?"

"how else will we see eachother again?" "because I want to." I reply, "why cant you look at our time together as a fun time, a cool memory, and leave it at that? Its like a nice package, we had a good time and thats that." she said, "well, wouldnt you want to OPEN the package?"

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FUCK IM good. I WANTED her to say that. I MADE her say that with this game. I ’permitted’ her to have my number but only AFTER I did the CREATIVE CLOSE script. It was awesome, I ran her through hell to get my #. She had to EARN IT! The girl in the back thought I was very cool and agreed with me and said to her, "you have to earn his #. he’s a man of value. He’s worth more than just a, "Ill call you." We planned to see eachother on Sunday (saturday I have that party). After I got her # but before I gave mine I said,, "before you get to have my number, you will agree to call me tommorrow, just to touch base. Is that fair?" "Yes that is fair. :)" "Not too early though, Im planning on sleeping in." They waved several times as they drove off. I made her WANT me. I made myself WORTH it. In a way, I acted like a girl. I was coy and hard to get. Fuck girls are good at this. How the hell do they do it so well so early? Anyway, thanks to the SS newsletters and your posts, I have really gotten my shit together. I came upstairs and IMMEDIATELY began posting shit here. Its 6:05 am now and there you have it.

Oh, BTW: remember that 10s # I got last Wednesday? Well, I had called her 2 days later and she said, "Im busy can you call me back?" That sucked. So before the FILM PREMIERE I called her again and she was getting her hair done. She was busy tonight (I had invited her to the FILM thing). She didnt try to get together another time nor did she sound so interested. So you know what I did? Now this hurt. I deleted her # from my list. I figure: I did all I can do to attract her LIVE that night I met her and I remember doing very well. She loved me. But on the phone she wasnt all that into me. So I gave her 2 tries and she just didnt bite like as if she was interested. I wont call again. If she doesnt call, that simply means she doesnt want to be with me. Simple and direct, yes? I cant convince her any MORE by calling her. I did all I can do and it is now up to her. I will only lower my standards by calling again. So I deleted the #. If she calls, BONUS. If not, I did the best I can ... oh, AND I got a # today from a beautiful girl I would love to be a girlfriend. Wow ... ok, now get THIS! Remember that photographer at the party? His camera was digital and he took a picture of Tat and me. I asked him to email it to me and he agreed. So, that means you guys get a pic. But only if you ask me privately and are cool about it.

Dont burst my bubble!

JIMMY the HuN BTW did NOT show up. He did NOT email me. He did NOT do anything. Of course I wont call this a cop out on his part cause I DID give him short notice. Besides, at $100 a #, Id only have made $100. Thing is, its the only # I wanted! She is amazing and I am in LOVE! wow. JIMMY, come out another time. Hey dude, honest, come out to the house party tommorrow. Or is that today? Saturday night anyway. Email me and we can meet up if you are up to a friendly game of The Game. Dont let me down. Im

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ready to uphold my reputation and nothing you can say but "OK, Ill be there" will uphold yours. Mystery

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Re: stimulators / 81

R e :s tim u lato rs /81

================================================================ fastseduction.com database fetch, author: Mystery (81) -> view this article on fastseduction.com (for select & copy) ================================================================ author: "Mystery" date: Sat, 12 Sep 1998 04:00:00 GMT newsgroup: alt.seduction.fast subject: Re: stimulators SPAM - cheesy attempt to add context into the email. but thats ok :) just add some helpful INFO on getting girls on your site and post that you have info to offer and then thats cool. We would prefer mp3 interview files or audio streams about the pick up game.

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Can I Buy you a Drink? / 82

Can I B u y yo u a D r in k? / 82

================================================================ fastseduction.com database fetch, author: Mystery (82) -> view this article on fastseduction.com (for select & copy) ================================================================ author: "Mystery" date: Sat, 12 Sep 1998 04:00:00 GMT newsgroup: alt.seduction.fast subject: Can I Buy you a Drink? [email protected] wrote>I spoke to you about moving to a new area, and having struggles with being lonely. Emotions are preprogrammed behavioral modifiers hardwired into your brain through 120,000 years of natural selection in human evolution. It is in fact THESE built in motivators (called emotions) that assisted millions of people before you to live long enough and motivate these ancestors to mate. In other words, instead of looking at emotions as limiters, look at them as indicators telling you what your body believes is MOST IMPORTANT to you. Eg: If you ancestors didnt have HUNGER, they would have increased their chance of dying. And so the humans with the HUNGER gene would have an evolutionary advantage and replicate more, giving off more HUNGER gene babies than the non-HUNGER gene babies who many times died sooner. Thousands and thousands of years of this have build a survival machine that, while not perfect, is pretty damned well calibrated to assist you with your survival and replicating. So, when you are lonely, this is a strong indicator that something must change. We like to sometimes simply WISH the emotions away because they dont feel good. Some people even TRY to do that. They will take drugs or meditate or talk themselves into thinking that they hate girls because you feel so bad when you think about them (tal has been through this last one). Thing is, notice how this emotion will motivate you to get the fuck out of your house for a change? If you are lonely, this is a great sign that your body and your mind (these are not two separate things as your brain is a part of your body) are functioning properly and it is telling you (like HUNGER) that you will increase your selfish gene’s chance of survival (by replicating) if you get out and hunt. Being horny is another one that we try to satiate by masterbating to net porn. Thing is, imagine if you DIDNT masterbate again until you got a girlfriend. Can you imagine the MOTIVATION you would have to get laid? Your body would make you go out every DAY and try to get some. SO how do we use these two emotions to motivate us in proper ways?

Use your reasoning to

prioritize what is important to you in a global lifelong perspective. Im sure you will find that having a woman (or more) to hold and love and love you back is very much a needed and wanted thing. We are ants in a colony of 7 billion. Sure, an ant can live in a segregated ant farm all by itself. But it wasnt ’designed’ to. The enviroment its best suited for is WITHIN it’s social collective. See? Humans too are not designed to live in a lonesome enviroment. We werent for the past 120,000 years living in a box. Our enviroment INCLUDED other humans and we adapted motivators to deal with others. So when you get these emotions, reason on HOW you can satiate them

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properly and with focus instead of detours and denials. Lonely? Good. build a plan.

Disciplined focus.

Plan to get out into the public 4 or 5 days a week. Go out ALONE if you cant bring a pick-up buddy. You shouldnt go out with friends who want to always hang with you and not pick up girls. Find a friend who wants to get a mate out there too. Its this friend is a girl, great. You will look even cooler. But if worse comes to worse, go out alone. When I went to a new city to live, I had to go out alone. There is NOTHING WRONG with this. This isnt a loser thing, this is in fact a FUCKING COOL thing. A guy confident enough to get out alone and stir up some trouble is cool. While out there you will make some guy friends who hold the same goals as you (in fact EVERY MAN, at some point in his life will wish to fuck a girl you know. Its not a bad thing. Its not a dirty thing. Its not a selfish thing. Its natural. Its behavioral. Its human nature.) Going out 4 or 5 times a day and exploring WHERE girls are in a systematic way. You will use your LOGIC for this. Reason out where they are. Whats good on a tuesday? mondays? fri and sat nite is always good somewhere but tuesday nite places are harder to find. Since youll be going out 4 or 5 days a week and entering into the antfarm collective on a regular basis, this lonely feeling will dissipate a bit. A very good start and a needed bandaid. See, if too many of these emotional indicators (behavioral motivators) are triggered, we call that stress. Your body has asked you to relieve your stress. Go out and approach women. The stress will begin to dissipate. This is where it gets tricky. There is another internal hardwired motivator circuit that ’seems’ to get in the way. It seems to contradict the first emotion (see our internal motivator circuits are very well calibrated to the dynamics of social life - you are a fucking fined tuned engine - these emotions will indicate to you what is most important whenever it gets in a situation it KNOWS (through years of natural selection) is important to your genes’ survival. So when you meet a girl that is ugly, nothing happens. You can walk up and say shit easily because you have nothing to lose. (In fact, because this is so easy, I suggest meeting lots of ugly women to start your day because it gets you rolling and you can always make friends - they might have a sister or a party to invite you to). But when a beautiful girl is near, your brain will give you a STATE-CHANGE. A state is an emotional state like lonely or anger or HORNY. This horny state is really a painful bitch to deal with. This is what all the pick up artists talk about when they discuss STATE-CHANGES. When you watch titanic, even though its all fake it can make us cry. That is a state change. And just by SEEING a pretty girl you have a STATE-CHANGE. Now, this state isnt really horniess. Horny is when you have a boner. If you dont have an erection, the state isnt horny. Its some other state and Im not even sure what to call it. We could call it AQUIRED or LOCKED-ON or even better AWARE. When she is there and you want to talk to her you are MORE than nervous, you are AWARE. Pulse quickens, I personally feels a wonderful sensation of butterflies in my stomach (still to this day - even yesterday when I met Tat) and your mind races for ’things to say’. Right?

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Imagine this: if you could CONTROL the two emotions LONELY and AWARE, if you could become MASTER of these and HARNESS their power, like the way you have mastered hunger, do you think you would be able to ’fill your stomach’? I swear to all of you, I am a pretty rational guy. I am guided by reason and humanity and not by mythical being or forces. Im 26 and Im not a horny asshole player. I love life and care for people and have close friends and think things through. There was a time I couldnt ’GET’ girls. I had such a low self-esteem and I was 20 before I had my first kiss. Or was I 21? fuck, anyway ... so I snapped. I thought, "Dude, you’ve got to get GOOD at this. This is too stressful. This seems like a very important thing to solve." I figured that I could hope that a relationship would drop in my lap and I wouldnt ever have to deal with getting good at picking up girls. I considered how if I already had a girl Id be happy and wouldnt have to chase. But then I thought, "NO! I have to MASTER this for a LIFETIME. Im not going to marry the first girl I meet. That isnt realistic? Im young, I cant KEEP a girlfriend when I dont know anything about them. Prioritize your needs and values. Put girls up there with sleep and food and stop abstaining from things that should be in your life as matter of fact. I just got an ICQ message from a friend now >>i’ve discovered place to find girls.... =) ANY pet store! HOLY CRAP i walk in surronded. I asked the person working there if u could hold a puppy, she hands it to me and these girls all flock around me

today a new and i was little black =)

Cool, that I think is a VERY good place to hang out - you’ll have to come up with a really good sequence of interactive scripting to initiate with the girls so your approach has context. Something like, "Isnt he cute? What would you name him if he was yours? He looks like a George ... or maybe a herman. What would you name ME if you brought me home. If I followed you home, would you keep me?" Something along those lines. Tell her youve been working on your puppy dog eyes and ask her to critique them. ICQ GUY>>well nothing much since i had to leave fast... but basicly i walked in and picked up the cutest puppy... then i taked with 3 hot girls about how much i wanted to PLAY with it and HUG it and so on... PLus i smiled and handed to a couple of them... One of them though i was so sweet since i said that when i got enough money i was going to buy it... Yea! hehe but they were all like 22-28 years old.. none of them would ahve looked at me twice in the going out sense... oh well. It was a cheap thrill while it lasted =P Yeah, ICQ guy is a teenager who is 16 and I suggested to him to chase collage girls becasue he is Tal’s cousin and I met him and I know he can get away with picking up 18 year olds. Consider the above scripting outlines the next time yo ugo in there ICQ guy. [email protected] wrote>I used to be able to approach women and chat them up, ok it was nerve wracking but i made my self do it because i was so very very lonely and i wanted a girl. Yep, I hear ya buddy. This state change, like I said, is a bitch. You are lonely and so you go out and attempt to meet girls. Then when you see her,

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this invisible barrier in your head, this state change erects itself between you and her. BTW: The ICQ guy is Shadowhawk, he’s posted here before. Too bad we didnt have more trust between us pick up guys, we could post picks of ourselves to see what we are dealing with and we could cater our focus on our image as well. Very important. Maybe post our pics in alt.romance and privat email our pick up friends to look at those posts. That way there is no PROOF of the pics being us, but by the natural look of the pics, we could believe they are real. I dont know, just a thought. OK - whats the DEAL with the AWARE state? This nervousness when approaching a girl? This horniness. This IMPORTANCE? Well, if you succumb to it and approach her as IF you are nervous and very AWARE and act like she is SO IMPORTANT, this indicates that you do not surround yourself with beautiful women. If on the other hand you dont take her shit, give her some NEG HITS (learn about those in other posts) you will SEEM like you dont HAVE this state change. See, if she is beautiful, she must deal EVERYDAY with the fact that men snap into this AWARE state and they all act the same. Shadowhawk>>okay... heres something i’ve been thinking about... If i finaly get a girl... and it’s about to happen, what the hell do i do? I mean... i don’t wanna get aids and shit. Do i ask her? Yes, of course. Talk about it. Make her your friend. If not your BEST friend. Establish that CONNECTION where you two can talk about EVERYTHING. Promise yourself NOT to go out with younger. Tell the girl this is your personal standard and this will make you seem high quality. Where a condom. In fact, get mom to buy you a 3 pack. Carry at least one on you (its more symbolic right now I think) but not in your wallet as it can wear from plastic bubble? Put it in there (the small one) and this will make you think about sex as fun, which it should be and not scary. Its just a girl, hopefully an older one, and be carrying it, ONE: you are prepared and TWO: it motivated you to use it. YES. Get you mom to buy you them. Tell her that you’ve been thinking about sex (you ARE 16) and you are thiking about the WHAT IF scenario. This way you can set up your parents for the future when it really happens. You will want to bring girls home and parents will OBJECT BIGTIME if you dont discuss your fears with them. Ha, they will feel weird about talking to you about it so this is an advantage to your setting up the rules. Tal brought a girl home when he was 15 and his mom caught them in bed in the morning. Ok, back to this invisible barrier: the AWARE state. You cant IGNORE it because fuck its a strong state, but what you CAN do is HIDE it. Ever have a headach and you just didnt bother telling anyone? They didnt know what you felt, did they? Well, if you HIDE the fact that your AWARE state is in full blown ON position, and pretend like you dont have this with them (NEG HIT them in a fun way) they will see you as hard to get and different and they will try to make you like all the rest. They will in fact chase YOU! That’s it. That is the psychological switch that makes what I do work so well. Its is in fact the biggest secret going in picking up girls. I did it yesterday to a girl. She BEGGED for my #. In my mind Im thinking, "oh god I want her." Fuck, I approached HER. She had me BEFORE hello. But I made her work to get me. Only a man of quality would make that happen. In fact,

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Ive been tricking this for so long that Im starting to think that maybe I AM a man of quality - this is a subject Ill contemplate with my self-esteem. So to conclude my ramblings, LONELY is good. solution. Dress up and get out. Get out 4 or 5 days a week and get into public gatherings for at least 2 hour sets if not more. No more than 4 (10pm to 2am). Secondly, AWARE state is good. Solution? since she doenst KNOW you have this, you must HIDE this fact and behave AS IF you didnt have this. You will be considered different and trhe NEG HITS will in fact intrigue her making her think you must hang with lots of beautiful girls if you can treat a 9 or a 10 like a friend and not a BABE. YOU: "Can I buy you a drink?" HER: "Yes, thanks. Now fuck off!!" Shadow Hawk>>i was out last night and today driving around town exploring... looking for place’s to go and find people. NO WHERE that i can go! i meant the only place i can go is skewl and the mall. And at the mall it’s not good cuz the only girls there are the others with their boyfriends, mothers or just aren’t there hehe. Tere was one group of girls but when i approached them (they were older) they looked at me and grined a (Awww thats so cute) look.. Yep, solution? Ask girls how THEY solve this problem. Walk up to them and say. "Im single. Im not hitting on any of you. Im thinking more long term here. I cant find places where there are girls. Where are they? This place seems dead." Be sincere and honest. They will tell you. The best way to find out something .... ASK.

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Re: Mystery: Meeting / 83

R e : M ys te r y: M e e tin g / 83

================================================================ fastseduction.com database fetch, author: Mystery (83) -> view this article on fastseduction.com (for select & copy) ================================================================ author: "Mystery" date: Sat, 12 Sep 1998 04:00:00 GMT newsgroup: alt.seduction.fast subject: Re: Mystery: Meeting to agree with the offer is so set up the situation so that there is no chance of a cheat of girls who are already friends, so that means NOT Bau Haus. Also, how do we RATE them? 5 #s from girls who are hideous doesnt count so we can discuss the details in person.

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Re: Here’s the Blow Job pattern... / 84

R e :H e r e ’s th e B lo wJ o bp atte r n .../ 84

================================================================ fastseduction.com database fetch, author: Mystery (84) -> view this article on fastseduction.com (for select & copy) ================================================================ author: "Mystery" date: Sat, 12 Sep 1998 04:00:00 GMT newsgroup: alt.seduction.fast subject: Re: Here’s the Blow Job pattern... we dont bother taking Jimmy’s attitude too seriously ... he’s just like the turrets syndrom guy in the movie ghost. rmember the ghost that jumped from subway train to subway train? That Jimmy :)

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Re: Mystery: Meeting / 85

R e : M ys te r y: M e e tin g / 85

================================================================ fastseduction.com database fetch, author: Mystery (85) -> view this article on fastseduction.com (for select & copy) ================================================================ author: "Mystery" date: Sat, 12 Sep 1998 04:00:00 GMT newsgroup: alt.seduction.fast subject: Re: Mystery: Meeting And Jimmy, I met you man. You honestly think you are capable of beating me? Im not trying to brag, but I’ve got more experience with this shit man. Whatever, lets check out that house party anyway. 2 girls invited tal and I to it so we figured, sure, itll get us out.

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PHONE # addendum / 86

P H O N E#ad d e n d u m /86

================================================================ fastseduction.com database fetch, author: Mystery (86) -> view this article on fastseduction.com (for select & copy) ================================================================ author: "Mystery" date: Sat, 12 Sep 1998 04:00:00 GMT newsgroup: alt.seduction.fast subject: PHONE # addendum When you are CLOSING and getting the phone number, remember to tell her what your RULES are for phone conversations. This way you will save yourself so much fucking grief. Turns out that Tat called me. She called my home and called my pager. I called her back and it was very pleasant. She cant come out tonight but she will try to see me tommorrow. She promised to call me tommorrow. I really had control on the situation. It feels NEW to me to tell her my RULES. I learned that from SS newsletters and it completely smoothed over any shit that could come with phone # issues. She is awesome. Let a girl walk on you and she will. Tell her your RULES and she will respect them. What a cutie! She said, "I was just thinking aobut you." mmmmmm, I like that. I want her. RULE#1: when you know its me calling, I dont want to hear, "hey, wazz up?" I would prefer to here, "Oh HI. How are you? Its GREAT to hear from you! So sweet of you to CALL! I was just thinking about you." :)

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================================================================ fastseduction.com database fetch, author: Mystery (87) -> view this article on fastseduction.com (for select & copy) ================================================================ author: "Mystery" date: Sat, 12 Sep 1998 04:00:00 GMT newsgroup: alt.seduction.fast subject: Re: The Gentlemen’s Forum intro scripts are opening line, but they arent stereotypical opening lines. main body scripts are topics of discussion.

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Re: A new name / 88


================================================================ fastseduction.com database fetch, author: Mystery (88) -> view this article on fastseduction.com (for select & copy) ================================================================ author: "Mystery" date: Sat, 12 Sep 1998 04:00:00 GMT newsgroup: alt.seduction.fast subject: Re: A new name >Ask her what she wants from life...what her dreams are. Go for the fundimentals...ask her what she wants to do with her life. (If she says she "wants to rock" then fuck her right there on the table) question: I notice that most girls answer I dont know when asked what they want to be or do with their life. Asking this almost always gets the same response. Any suggestions on this? should we bother asking? should we not put them into a better state? curious.

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Re: A new name / 89


================================================================ fastseduction.com database fetch, author: Mystery (89) -> view this article on fastseduction.com (for select & copy) ================================================================ author: "Mystery" date: Sat, 12 Sep 1998 04:00:00 GMT newsgroup: alt.seduction.fast subject: Re: A new name >>Once she starts telling you these things, you can focus on what ever emotional subjects she tends to dwell on. I chated with a girl a few nights ago, who told be she had felt traped with her x-boyfriend...so I focused on assoiating myself with freedom. I like that. > Anyway, I read somewhere a good advice: give a compliment, then ask a > question. Like, (really stoopid one), "you have incredibly beautiful eyes, > did you get them from your mother or your father?", that way, she does not > have to analyze your compliment, and she’s not stuck into answering, "yeeah, > thanks ...". I believe on the contrary that you should NEVER give direct anatomy compliments. NEVER. She gets em all the time. Consider more srcinal compliments like, "you are the leader of your friends I notice. Why is that?" >The problem with that is you can cause what I like to call a "come on line reflex." Most women have heard so many lines, that they automatically dismiss them. Try this...go up and simply tell her she looks fantastic...or do you always look this fantastic etc. Then walk away and sit down somewhere nearby. Ouch. Again, NEVER do what others have done before you - probably minutes before. >Don’t do what is expected...being srcinal will get attention...do not be afraid to stand out. Remember...one of the most famous movie come ons..was tom cruise in top gun just badly singing a righous brothers song. That made women all over the globe moist. That WAS an outgoing thing. It made him the leader of his group. You can do that too, but I think that that movie scene was only 75% what could be done other ways.

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Re: A new name / 90


================================================================ fastseduction.com database fetch, author: Mystery (90) -> view this article on fastseduction.com (for select & copy) ================================================================ author: "Mystery" date: Sat, 12 Sep 1998 04:00:00 GMT newsgroup: alt.seduction.fast subject: Re: A new name mystery ... that is my philosophy. chose my nick

Women NEED mystery and that is why I

Mystery

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================================================================ fastseduction.com database fetch, author: Mystery (91) -> view this article on fastseduction.com (for select & copy) ================================================================ author: "Mystery" date: Sat, 12 Sep 1998 04:00:00 GMT newsgroup: alt.seduction.fast subject: Re: Mystery is a pederast yes, an example is what I mean ... stuff you have said in the past, shit like that is cool.

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Re: Mystery’s FILM PREMIERE PARTY / 92

R e : M ys te r y’s FILM P R EM IER EP AR T Y/ 92

================================================================ fastseduction.com database fetch, author: Mystery (92) -> view this article on fastseduction.com (for select & copy) ================================================================ author: "Mystery" date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 04:00:00 GMT newsgroup: alt.seduction.fast subject: Re: Mystery’s FILM PREMIERE PARTY hey buddy, I would LOVE to hear your stories. Get into some adventure, good or bad and then tell us the truth about what happened. We would LOVE to hear it. Oh, and I think its your turn anyway. So go out and make something happen. Even if nothing happened, tell us that you tried.

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MISSION for NEWBIES / 93

M IS S IO N fo r N EWB IES 93 /

================================================================ fastseduction.com database fetch, author: Mystery (93) -> view this article on fastseduction.com (for select & copy) ================================================================ author: "Mystery" date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 04:00:00 GMT newsgroup: alt.seduction.fast subject: MISSION for NEWBIES I undertand that internal challenge many newbies feel. I must deal with many emotions before during and after I go out to meet girls. Before is loneliness. Sometimes I just want to stay in and mope. So I must FORCE myself to SOLVE the emotion and not just lie there. During, I am in that AWARE state where the girls make me feel so weird and I have to deal with that to act normal and in control. And then afterwards, if I go home with nothing, I must have the strength to know that I am working with probabilities and know that by looking only at this day I am blinding myself to the big picture. Now is the time to stop Babe-watching. Get into a fun mood (which I know is hard for the very first girl but you can fake it) and walk up to many girls (ugly or not) and say, "Hi." Remember to smile when you approach. Then ... and here is the best part, say any non-stereotypical opening line (INTRO scripting) you would like and then after what-ever banter you began with, say, ’Pleasure meeting you" and walk off with a smile and a skip to your walk. Example: girl is there. shes only a 7. walk up and say, "Hi. Did you know elvis prestley dyed his hair? what was his srcinal hair color? Guess? Nope, blond. Isnt that odd? Pleasure meeting you." Leave. Dont be a goof and over animate yourself. Be natural and fun and in a good mood. Now, do that to EVERY girl you can. Ugly or not. You will meet many girls, and get over your intro fear. Well actually, you wont ever get OVER it, but you will learn to PRETEND you dont have it. THAT is your mission. I would like you to do this and yes, this is going to be a different day than you’ve done before. The past does not have to equal the future. If you keep doing the things you’ve done then you’ll keep getting the things you’ve gotten - and that is NO GIRLS. This is your mission. Talk to 20 women in one day. Go ALONE. Do not antimidate girls by having friends with you. Not 1 or 2 girls either. 20. That is a realistic #. If you feel it isnt, then Im telling you now you are completely wrong and your emotions are fighting you. You will CONTROL these emotions head on. As for the Go For It attitude, this will only come AFTER the first success in the day. You have to work DESPITE not having this emotion for the first one. AND if the first one doesnt come off as if you are a fun guy, then you still wont feel good. But if you FINALLY get a fun response, then your success with give you the GO For It attitude to now go to the next 18 girls. This is the only TRICK to getting the attitude you wish. Too bad you can’t get it for the very first, but if you could easily do it, then every other

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MISSION for NEWBIES / 93

guy could too and that wouldnt be a good thing for you any more. All the other guys would have gotten to the girls first. Remember, they always go up and act like typical GUYS. How many walk up and smile and be fun and then just leave without hitting? Again, this is your MISSION and I expect this to occur THIS week. Post your results in detail here. No stop reading and get out there and meet 20 strangers for fun. learn alot. tell us what you learned.

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You’ll


Julian Writes and Mystery Responds / 94

J u lian Wr ite s an d M ys te r y R e s p o n d s / 94

================================================================ fastseduction.com database fetch, author: Mystery (94) -> view this article on fastseduction.com (for select & copy) ================================================================ author: "Mystery" date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 04:00:00 GMT newsgroup: alt.seduction.fast subject: Julian Writes and Mystery Responds >First of all, I’d like to say that you’re one of the coolest things from Canada since Savage Garden and John Candy. Thank you :) Which reminds me. If a girl happens to compliment you, you can reply, "You’re not so bad yourself." :) It almost has a NEG HIT tone and comes off so well. Remember to smile. >My first question is about clubs. Are there any other places besides clubs and bars that are good places to pick up women? Bars aren’t really my type of place to hang out at (like you, I don’t drink). While I don’t drink, I have gotten pretty good results in clubs because there are so many women in a given area. You get to find the best of the place quickly and approach up to 10 girls in a single place which is great. SS man Ross Jeffries says that coffee shops are good but I find it not as good for me yet as the clubs. I have already attempted to get girls in coffee houses and such but the girls so far were just not attractive enough. They seem too young for me (16-19). I prefer 21 - 29 with 24 as my optimum. I am in fact still trying to find the RIGHT places. FIND has been the toughest thing for me lately but I am TRYING and getting good results by getting out and attempting to find the best places. I’ve been going to places Ive never been before and that is a good start I think. >I like the pet shop idea. Unexpected places like that are good places to find women. Unexpected places? Consider reasoning where the best places are likely to be and try there. A systematic investigation will help us all. Research the city on the net. Ask women where THEY think is the best place to meet women. Ask and ye shall gets answers. >All of the things you’ve mentioned in the postings and most of Ross Jeffries’s ideas are sound ones but finding the women is half the battle, at least where I’m from (western Pennsylvania). There are no cool clubs or bars around here. It seems that once a girl turns 19, she leaves the area and doesn’t return until she’s 30 and has 4 kids. There are no places to find attractive girls, age 19 - 23 (I’m 20). What do you suggest? Again, ask the women! If you were to walk up to strangers and say, "Hi. I’m single. I dont want to stay this way. Do you know where a strapping man such as myself could FIND women my age with which to meet?" If you say this to a pretty woman, this will be a great NEG HIT for HER and maybe get her interested in you. Otherwise, she may tell you. Ask her why she goes

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Julian Writes and Mystery Responds / 94

there and then offer to go there WITH her so you could meet people together. >My second question deals with you. What line of work are you in? What do you do to support your hobby of club-hopping and seducing? Just curious. I’m a performing artist.

I do corporate events and have worked in clubs.

>Thanks in advance for your insight to these questions, as well as all the other info you’ve posted. I’d like to contribute to the group but I still need to get some experience first. Accept the NEWBIE MISSION (see the post) >You see, I haven’t been able to get this to work yet, for I’m still in the learning stage. Once I try this, I can report on my success or failure. At least if I fail then I’ll have something against which I can calibrate my methods. I guess I’m still letting that initial AWARE state keep me in fromt of the computer instead of getting out in society and trying. Yep, start the NEWBIE MISSION today!!!! >P.S. You should compile all your knowledge into a web site. get a free one from GeoCities, or maybe through your ISP. I have been thinking about this actually. this. Who knows. Its an idea :)

You can

I have saved all my postings for

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Mystery and Tal on Saturday Night / 95

M ys te r y an d T al o n S atu rd ay N ig h t / 95

================================================================ fastseduction.com database fetch, author: Mystery (95) -> view this article on fastseduction.com (for select & copy) ================================================================ author: "Mystery" date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 04:00:00 GMT newsgroup: alt.seduction.fast subject: Mystery and Tal on Saturday Night Alright gentlemen, Another night out with Mystery. Tal called me at 9pm and I met him on the corner of a street downtown right by where the party was. I told him that Jimmy the HuN would be there. Tal told me they had already been at the party and it sucked so they just waited on the corner for me. Action Fighter was there with his very cute asian girlfriend (great body) and Tal and his buddy (Ill name him Judd for now) were there waiting for me. We went to a nearby beer hall (not my thing) and Tal got us in for free (he knew the door dude.) This place made me think. It was full of girls but they were drunk looking - beer place. The stage was filled with girls dancing and I noticed that all the people dancing on the edge of the stage facing the rest of the place were ALL girls. It was as if they were DISPLAYING themselves to the room. It was so behaviorally obvious. Human nature is odd indeed. Anyway, there was NOTHING of interest. I assessed that the place was unsuitable. Most were young collage girls very drunk and dancing. The music was loud and such so after Judd finished his beer we left. Action Fighter and his girl had to go somewhere so they left which left only Tal Judd and me. So, Judd made us wait while he toked a joint. Then we went to goto Tals car so we could drive to a better scene in the city. Thing is, as we walked past the party I said, Hey, maybe there are more girls here. Judd had kept walking towards the car as Tal and I went into the party. We were there a bit and the girl who liked Tal was there from yesterday. It was an 80s theme party which was sorta lame but hey. Oh yeah, Jimmy the HuN was NOT there. I sent him the party info but he never showed. Actually Jimmy, at first I thought it was good you didnt show cause you wouldnt have missed anything but truth is, while this was NOT a pick up party, it WAS enlightening none-the-less. Jimmy, you would have enjoyed the evening but we would not have gotten phone #s or any shit like that. Ok, so ... Judd wanted to take off (which was way lame ... we were out maybe an hour). He drank beer and smoked pot and now felt like he couldnt get a chick or something. Lame. I dislike that sort of excuse ... blaming life for dealing you a cruddy hand rather than motivating yourself to TRY. So Tal drove him home while I stayed at the party. I was sorta bored though for a while. I felt a little trapped. So I went into a room with the girl who liked Tal and she was talking to a girl - they were sitting on a futon. I sat on the floor and listened. So then I started talking and some more people joined in. Tal returned about 20 minutes later and I suggested the question game. There was a girl there age 29 who had a really cute face, shortish blond hair and to be honest she was rather voluptuous but wore a skirt and had such nice skin and great tits that I thought, "I would fuck her" She had such energy, smiling and happy and attractive that way. Mmmm,

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and Tal would too.


Ok, so here is the QUESTION GAME:

Originally, I often used this routine to play with only one girl. However, we began playing this game with more than one at the party. Ok, lets start with the basic routine. You say to the girl, "Have you ever played the question game? Well there are RULES to the game. Rule 1, you have to tell the truth. The whole truth and nothing but the truth. Like truth or dare but without the dare because I dont know how weird you really are (a minor NEG HIT). Rule 2, you can’t ask the same question asked. Rule 3, you have to ask questions that let skeletons out of the closet. Rule 4 you ask a question then me then you and back and forth. Oh and Rule #5, you go first." She will say, "thats not fair." So you then ask, "How many boyfriends have you had?" From here on the entire question game will escalate sexually until she is asking you how many times you masterbate. Its a fun routine. Try it. Well, so at this party I began it. Only I learned something there. The game isnt nearly as useful when doing it to several people than when one on one. So we sorta discarded it and the voluptuous blond said, "This is like the game HOT SEAT." So we started to play this game. It was awesome. I learned so much about people. About 10 people played the game. In it, one person is put in the HOT SEAT and everyone have 5 to 10 minutes to ask questions. Anything! And the hot seat person must answer truthfully. I mean it was very enlightening. It turns out most girls masterbate only once a week. Only one guy masterbated 3 times a day. Im a 1 to 3 times a day masterbater. And that is ON TOP of my girls. I think I have a high sex drive. One guy was a bit chunky and he hadnt been laid in 5 yrs and when the girls asked why, he said he thought he wasnt attractive. (Which was sorta true - but what went through my head was - if I was in his body, I could STILL get laid within 2 weeks) Well the girls were saying that they didnt look at the body so much as the attitude. His attitude was pathetic. When we interrogated the girls, they said that the 3 things thye looked for most in a man was a great smile, a sense of humour and a connection. I swear, EVERYTHING I have learned up until this point was 100% confirmed with these women. In fact, when the girl who liked Tal was asked "If you had to sleep with someone in this room, who would you most enjoy it with?" She was real embarrassed and finally said, "Both of you" pointing me Tal and I. When the voluptuous one went up, when she was asked what her ideal man was, she started to describe me exactly and everyone was laughing as she stated each trait. They were saying, "That’s YOU!" and pointing at me and she was embarrassed. So we played tih with everyone for 2 hours or so and it was so fun and enlightening. CONFIRMATION: EVERYTHING we are currently working on is WORKING. Its all confirmed. They want a smile, to feel a connection and to be made to laugh. When I went up there I was honest and said I had sex with 57 girls. They were shocked but all the guys were really cool about it and the girls were from then on really accepting. The voluptous one wrote a poem on my back and we were flirting pretty big. I wrote my email address on her leg and talmon on her foot. She honestly wanted us both. In her interrogation, she said she couldnt tell who she wanted more. She really wanted both of us too. I was rubbing her back and we were really flirting well.

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Well afterwards, Tal and I walked out with the voluptuous blond and the other blond girl who Tal wanted in the first place. They told us about taking swing dancing class on Monday. That was weird because someone posted here that swing is a great dance to learn because it can be used with so much music. I told that guy in a post I would love to learn and now comes me chance. So Tal and I are going with the 2 girls on Monday to learn how to swing. They told us that we could go for drinks afterwards - then they left after flirtatious kisses goodby to BOTH of us! I swear to you a 4some is in the works. They told the group during the game (each of them) that they wanted BOTH of us and I told them I was polyamorous (loves more than one woman) and tal had talked about the time he and I shared a girl (I only got a blow from her and watched him fuck her - no, he and I didnt touch eachother. We’re only buddies - that happened 4 years ago or so.) Everyone ws accepting to our histories and our desires. The game helped to really open up a connection with this blind trust game. So its all set. Not only will I learn how to swing dance and thereby increase my girl getting abilities, but will get a chance to share 2 women with my buddy Tal. Interesting, isnt it? Anyway, it was a very flattering day for both Tal and I. We are sooooo IN! It was a different day than any usual 4 hour session in a club, but inlightening. And to think, at first we werent going to even GO to the party. I learned so much. EVERYTHING I believe which regards to getting women was confirmed by these girls. AND we got them on top of that so we really know our shit. When Jimmy the HuN says he hates SS, it makes him look foolish (nothing personal Jimmy - just consider that maybe you havent connected to the reasons why SS works). He’s fighting the laws of physics. I havent gone through EVERYTHING with regards to SS but you certainly could cherry pick many great insights in human nauture. Gentlmen, we have stumbled upon information that WORKS! Mystery

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Re: THE TRUTH ABOUT JIMMY THE HUN / 96

R e :T H ET R U T H AB O U T J IM M YT H EH U N /96

================================================================ fastseduction.com database fetch, author: Mystery (96) -> view this article on fastseduction.com (for select & copy) ================================================================ author: "Mystery" date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 04:00:00 GMT newsgroup: alt.seduction.fast subject: Re: THE TRUTH ABOUT JIMMY THE HUN sorry HuN, that doesn’t flow with my internal values. I enjoy sex, not all the shit baggage that comes with what you do. Good Luck though with all your exploits. I conciede defeat before we get out on the town. Im not into fucking 5 uglies in 7 days. I know by probabilities that I could FIND 5 hot babes in a week. If you can, please tell us where you go. It sure as hell isnt Berlins.

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3some ideas / 97

3s o m e id e as / 97

================================================================ fastseduction.com database fetch, author: Mystery (97) -> view this article on fastseduction.com (for select & copy) ================================================================ author: "Mystery" date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 04:00:00 GMT newsgroup: alt.seduction.fast subject: 3some ideas Tat from the Premiere party called me today and she picked me up at 9pm. We drove to her friends place (the other girl who was with Tat the night we met).. During the ride Tat was nervous. I could tell. Also though, she was dressed normal just to hang and she just wasnt as pretty as before. I mean, I’d DO her dont get me wrong but she wasnt as HOT as i had first pictured her. Am I weird or what? She said she never had sex which to me fuycking sucks because shes going to suck in bed. Ok, the other girl is very cute, better looking I think. Fuck. I want both. I will work on that. I am willing to lose one for the chance of getting both. We got more friends and went to an otooles like place. There I talked with their friend (a guy) all night about philosophy stuff. Tat and I didnt really talk. Afterwards, we dropped of the cute girl who complained about his performing artist boyfriend maybe cheating and I told her to expect it. He’s touring small towns right now. I want her and Tat together. On the way home, I told Tat she needs a good fuck. Yep, I said it that way. She likes me so she took it as advice but I cant force anything. If I knew she was a virgin, Id NEVER have wasted time. Her friend is a cutie pie though. mmmm. Im going to bed both if I can - or none at all. Tat and I talked for 2 hours about philosophical things in my parking lot. I really convinced her about sex and to move on from her ex and shit. I hate that crap but it was ok fun I guess. I look forward to Monday when I go out with the Tal and the 2 girls from the house party. Thoughts. I think I should invite Tat and her friend to my place to watch movies. They like my brain but arent mature enough emotionally or sexually to think that a 3some is cool yet. I need to tell them I want to go out with BOTH of them at the same time. I am also willing to do this. Does anyone have info on HOW to make a 3some happen?

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Re: Real world application of SS and NLP / 98

R e : R e al wo r ld ap p licatio n o f S S an d N LP /98

================================================================ fastseduction.com database fetch, author: Mystery (98) -> view this article on fastseduction.com (for select & copy) ================================================================ author: "Mystery" date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 04:00:00 GMT newsgroup: alt.seduction.fast subject: Re: Real world application of SS and NLP I would like to quickly add my positive testimonial to the advice given in the above post. Honest buddy, EVEYTHING said here is not only GOOD, but rather the advice is 100% on the mark. Fuck money. The real game isnt played with money. Why? Because the girl doesnt know you HAVE a great car. And by telling her this you look like a fool talking about it. This is HOT advice.

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THEMES / 99

T H EM ES /99

================================================================ fastseduction.com database fetch, author: Mystery (99) -> view this article on fastseduction.com (for select & copy) ================================================================ author: "Mystery" date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 04:00:00 GMT newsgroup: alt.seduction.fast subject: THEMES OK, we’ve got INTRO scripts.

We’ve got CLOSEs.

We need a list of THEMES. Ross Jeffries PATTERNS are ALL THEMES. And yet not ALL work at all times. So this thread is dedicated to themes. Themes are the basic outline of non-seductive idle chat. remember, we arent going to HIT on the girl or girls but we must use stories or routines or THEMES with which we can convey our personalities. Here is the beginning of the list (reiterating some of the ones we talked about)

the question game - Mystery the hot seat - Mystery elvis and his hair - Mystery blow job pattern - Ross Caous Theory - Jeff Goldblum in Jurassic park Pull my finger - Mystery Cosmology - Mystery (discussing the nature of the universe) Connecting pattern - Ross My Ant Farm - Mystery (discussing how humans werent meant to live alone in an ant farm)

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================================================================ fastseduction.com database fetch, author: Mystery (100) -> view this article on fastseduction.com (for select & copy) ================================================================ author: "Mystery" date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 04:00:00 GMT newsgroup: alt.seduction.fast subject: Re: THE TRUTH ABOUT JIMMY THE HUN >That just shows how stupid , insecure, and jealous you really are you crazy bastard you. With out even seeing those women you call them "ugly". Is that how you go through life? Make an opinion about something with no proof or worst , no facts. On the contrary, my assessment of the girls ratings come from probabilities. Finding 5 girls worthy of fucking in a 7 day period, while statistically possible, is also improbable. 5 girls? How many did you have to approach to get that many in bed? The statistical probabilities dont add up logically. Could you kindly break down the #s for me? I merely reason that the ratings are lower when you are hasty. Is this reasoning erronous? Can you agree that the 5 girls were not the BEST looking you’ve ever had? My facts come from the nature of statistical probability. Math is a good thing. Work out the math for me kindly. >Or do you just go through life lying. I walk the walk. Nobody can even race the same track I do. I doubt a fuck up, pathetic loser like you can. If they were uglies would I post them??? Just because your girlfriends are make Rosi O’Donnel look like Jennifer Lopez "ain’t" my fault. You play yatzee don’t you? Or tic-tac-toe. Do you yet realize one of the most important rules in game theory is... sometimes the best way to win the game is not to play at all. Your little game of flame makes you the winner by default. feels good eh? Ahh, the truth about jimmy the hun - angry youth. I’ve decided by your posts that you are unworthy of my company in real life. You arent a fun guy. I would prefer to hang with people who make me laugh. Not feel embarrassed. Where does this hostility arise from? SATAN is a perfect gentleman. And BTW: if Rosi wanted to fuck me, I’d do it. Why? Because I get great body’s alot ... its the wonderful personalities like Rosi has that is rare. I wonder if she’s good in bed. :) I’d honestly bang her for kicks. Id like to meet her. I remember when she hosted her own comedy show. She was chunks but so funny I thought about doing her. But then again, I think about doing LOTS of women. >At best it has to be 40%, but judging from that I would say closer to .5%. Something like 1 out of 20. Come on fraud, spill the beans. You mean by how many I approach do I get to sleep with? Hmm I think realistically Im around only 20%, lower than your estimate of me. I’m trying to raise the bar but I have to deal with my personal limitations, as do all of us. I do the best I can. :)

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Jimmy, smile buddy.


It’ll be over soon.

Mystery

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Re: THEMES / 101

R e : T H EM ES / 101

================================================================ fastseduction.com database fetch, author: Mystery (101) -> view this article on fastseduction.com (for select & copy) ================================================================ author: "Mystery" date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 04:00:00 GMT newsgroup: alt.seduction.fast subject: Re: THEMES I’ve never tried this blowjob pattern yet, what is your experience with this? how many times have you tried it before dropping it from your repetoire?

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Re: Help needed: how to approach women? / 102

R e : H e lp n e e d e d : h o w to ap p r o ach wo m e n ? / 102

================================================================ fastseduction.com database fetch, author: Mystery (102) -> view this article on fastseduction.com (for select & copy) ================================================================ author: "Mystery" date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 04:00:00 GMT newsgroup: alt.seduction.fast subject: Re: Help needed: how to approach women? Jimmy you are KILL FILED. sorry dude, you lame me out. "pleasure meeting you." :) Mystery had KILLFILED JIMMY. come but lame shit. Nothing personal Jimmy.

I suggest others do too.

Enjoy your life.

Bye

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However ...

NOTHING of worth has


Jimmy update / 103

J im m y u p d ate / 103

================================================================ fastseduction.com database fetch, author: Mystery (103) -> view this article on fastseduction.com (for select & copy) ================================================================ author: "Mystery" date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 04:00:00 GMT newsgroup: alt.seduction.fast subject: Jimmy update I’ve finally kill filed Jimmy. Suggest others do the same so we can enjoy out learning together without lamo interruptions. Its good to Kill file. try it out. Jimmy, please Kill File me too. If you don’t you are lowering your self-respect. If you reply to anything by me, this is PROOF to all that you havent the guts. Im no longer a bother to you. Just filter my posts. thanks dude. :) Im sure others will follow suit. been.

You arent productive dude.

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Never have


Re: A hello, and My past Friday night (3 strike outs) / 104

R e :Ah e llo ,an dM y p as tFrid ayn ig h t(3s trike o u ts )/ 104

================================================================ fastseduction.com database fetch, author: Mystery (104) -> view this article on fastseduction.com (for select & copy) ================================================================ author: "Mystery" date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 04:00:00 GMT newsgroup: alt.seduction.fast subject: Re: A hello, and My past Friday night (3 strike outs) >I just can’t seem to find the right words to say when attempting to start a conversation with a women I find attractive. Thus starts that unbearable moment of silence. Yes, we all can get that. The ART is about NOT getting that and that is why you are here. That is what patterns and scripts and themes and outlines and OPENERs and INTROs and MAIN BODYs and patter and stories and CLOSEs and routines are all about. >This is my main problem. I have little fear in walking up to a women, and saying hello or asking them to dance. I guess having some other intros would help. This fear is known as the AWARE state change. The more beautiful the girl, the more AWARE you become. This isnt something that happens to you becasue you are shy. This is a mechanism built into human behavior. Your genes preprogrammed you to feel this from birth. We ALL get it and its a bitch to deal with. It will NOT go away. But you can HIDE it. The girl will never KNOW you are feeling it. Most girls think that nervous guys are lame. Lost guys therefore ARE lame. So, you can hide this fact like one would hide a headcold from someone by not complaining and tipping others off. This is why we are here. To approach a girl, you need an INTRO script (not an opening line). Many start with "Hi." Consider the MUSIC script: "Hi. I like pearl jam, im not ashamed. :)" she says, "oh, ok. *looks weird at you.*" You say, "I like the tragically hip." She says, "yeah", showing she likes them too. You are smiling all the while. Because she likes the band you like, you take an obvious step towards her. "I like stone temple pilots." If she says "ewww", take an obvious step back. See, you can NEG HIT her, show playfulness with this game, make her confused about whether you are hitting on her (which you arent visibly) and learn about her music taste (a good indicator of many things) all beginning with a "Hi." Continue playing this game for several more bands. Shew may even begin playing the game with you. Oh and if you dont already know a girl and have made her laugh and already know your name, dont bother asking a stranger to dance. Dancing is an extra bonus. The best girl-getters dont get the girl by dancing ... not first anyway. You went to 3 women and talked to them? Thats GREAT man. That took an attempt to CONTROL the AWARE state change that occurs when near a beautiful woman. Great start. Familiarity to this feeling will allow you to control this better. Its not FEAR BTW. Its AWARE.

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> A friend and I (he’s married, I’ll call him Ringo) decided earlier in the week that we’d hit the club around 10pm. To make a long story short, we did just that. He mainly goes to the clubs just to look at the women, but won’t pass up a one night stand if it happens. Dont sugar coat this man. He goes to get laid but uses the excuse of just looking when he can’t. Humans are scientifically polygamous. How many times do we have to say, "this is HUMAN NATURE. Its OK to be natural." CHEATING is culturally a dirty word, but our gene’s thank us for it. Its an evolutionary advantage (shrug). >We sat down and talked, and made a round around the club to see what we could see. I saw nothing at this point (around 11pm) and was debating on leaving to hit another spot. Ringo wanted to stay because he was hoping to meet up with a lady (Rene) whom he had met the week before and had said she would be there that night. I said okay, I’d stay for another half hour or so if nothing came about. Sitting down is generally a bad thing in a club - but it could have been REALLY dead and you were waiting for it to pick up before making rounds were possible. 10pm is good to get there though so you have time to mentally prepare. The Rene thing seems sorta lame already - meeting a girl there sucks. He should get himself a pager. If he tells women he’s married but that he just bought a pager to have some added fun in his life, you’d be surprised how many girls would take him up on it. Of course he has to attract the girls first. Do this by NOT hitting on them. Make them laugh and make them connect and they will want to get the pager # off him. Everytime his secret pager vibrates, he can call it a stud-meter. >There was one problem though, there were 2 geeks who had beat us to the punch. They were talking to these guys for around 15 minutes. The whole time, I’m looking and smiling at the gorgeous one. We made eye contact several times. That is NEVER a problem. SOLUTION: meet the men first. You must disarm EVERYONE else BEFORE you start chatting with the one you want. This is a basic rule. So instead of introducing yourself to HER (too obvious - she already KNOWS you want to talk with her by the stares), you instead show your confidence and control by going in and introducing yourself to the guys. You can walk up and say, "Looks like the party is over here. May we join?" The girls will say yes and seeing as the guys there dont KNOW the girls, they have no right to say no or they will piss the girls off. So you start getting to know the guys first. Then the other girls and you purposely ignore the girl you want. remember, you dont HIT on the other girls though. You are just having a cool time enjoying conversation. Within 5 minutes you should have your pleasant persoanlity conveyed already. You will no doubt come off more brilliant than the other two guys because you showed control even though there WERE men in the group. You can then SWIPE her right from under their noses. Most men never know when Im coming.

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I make them like and respect me first, then I take the girl and they will think that they just have a lower self-esteem and that is why the girl liked me more anyway. >After a while, she comes over to the bar, and non-chalantly asks me if I have a pen. In which I don’t, but I reply to her "if it’s not in my best interest, then no I don’t have one", she starts to laugh a little, and then asks if she could please use my pen. I chuckle a little, and kindly apologize and tell her I don’t have a pen. She then says thanks, and walks back over to her table where the guys were. I’m not sure if there was much I could do in this situation. But I do feel as though I blew a chance here. Feedback? Yep, sorry buddy. You blew it. You didnt approach them. You just concluded it was a no win situation. And by that belief, it became one. This sounds like a wonderful CLASSIC chess move you missed. You coulda entered with getting to know the guys first and disarming them. But ... you didnt. "Hey Guys, parties over here eh?" Or you could have said, "Gentlemen, are these ladies bothering you? Alright ladies, come on, leave the men alone. Sheeh! Women! Get them in together and they act like wolves on the hunt." >I see an attractive figure walking towards the bar and I go and sit alone near her friend (a 6 or 7) who was holding the table for them. dont sit. The 3 second rule states, if you like a girl, you have 3 seconds to approach her and say hi or you risk the high chance of staling it out wiht gawking at her too long and shit like that. >After she goes and sits, I notice her standing and dancing near her seat. I immediately walk over and ask her to dance. She says she doesn’t want to go out on the dance floor. Dont ask strangers to dance. They can say NO. Its easier to say NO. They will say NO MORE than YES. Once they say NO. You have nothing better to say than, "pleasure meeting you" and walk off. Forget it. Doesnt work. Be efficient. Most lamos will ask a girl to dance. Be different. >She than starts to smile, and says "how old are you? you look so young!" She turns to her friend and asks her "doesn’t he look young?". They are both smiling and giggling at this point so old do you think I am?". She says "I dont know, but you do "well, age is nothing but a number, but since you asked, I nod. I say "is that too young for a dance", she says "yes, for a dance", she says "no, sorry". I smile at her, and

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I ask them "Okay, how look young". I say, am 23". She starts to it is". I say, "not even say "you enjoy your



evening" and walk away. Feedback? By her beginning the playful game of chat, she was qualifying you. You were too needy. Too typical. Too controlled by the AWARE state to think straight and NEG HIT her. They were playing with you and you had to play back but you failed. You also asked questions that could be answered with a yes or a no. And NO is easier to say ... less work on their part. You gave no reason to make her want to dance with you. You werent HUMOROUS, CONFIDENT (no neg hits) nor did you attempt to CONNECT with them as a friendly person. You were trying to dance and that means you are obviously trying to initiate a courting ritual. I would honestly call that a bomb. you bombed big guy, and for that, Im actually proud. Thats basically the worst it can ever get so if you can handle that, you can handle anything. Having the guts to try that shows me you are willing to get good at this. Again, dont set up courting rituals. Dont take a girl to the movies or to dinner when you just meet them. Dont buy a girl a drink or ask them to dance. EVERY lamo does that. But again, you had the guts to first go through the pain, and then the honesty to tell us so I applaude the effort. See, the girl was in CONTROL of the situation. You had to NEG HIT them and then take CONTROL. Seize the conversation. EG: Instead of fighting the young age thing, you could have added fuel to their fire until it seemed absurd. "Yep, Im just a kid. I escaped from my crib, stole my big brothers ID and ... oh oh, do any of you ladies know how to change a diaper? *worried look*" CONTROL, confidence, humour, disarming ... passing the test they give with attitude and a smile. >I told him I was gonna stay another hour or so, and for them to have a nice time :). After they leave, I spot 2 women coming into the club. Good.

Dont leave just because a friend leaves.

You have to live your life.

>One was, umm, not my type, but the other I did find attractive (a common theme). I watch them for a while, in an attempt to make eye contact which never happens. Mistake - eye contact is NOT required. You werent smiling most of the evening were you? Think about this. I think you werent smiling. Also, I hope as hell you werent holding onto that stereotypical lone wolf BEER in a hand. If you would have gone up to her out of the blue and entered with the ELVIS INTRO, that would have been just fine. Playful.

>After around 10-15 minutes of trying, I notice her leave her seat, and start to dance near the dancefloor. I wait about another 5 minutes, and approach her (smiling of course). "Hi there, you look like you want to go on the dance floor" I say. She smiles (somewhat) shakes her head, and says no. How many times must you try this very overused and bad entry tactic? NO questions. No dancing.

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No YES



>I say, "well would you mind if I joined you for some conversation", she says "no, I dont mind". I say "It’s a little hard to talk near the dance floor, let’s go in the back where it’s a little more quiet". Shes says "no, I dont want to back there". I say "are you sure, I wont bite you", she says "no, that’s okay". I then get frustrated a little. Ouch dude. Why would a girl want to inconvenience herself for a guy who hasnt made her laugh or connect or respect? Dude, you try and that is a good thing, now, listen up to the things in NG (newsgroups) because the ideas passing here are going to transform your failures into successes. EVERYTHING you have done are CLASSIC failures. You were OBVIOUSLY hitting on her. In her head, the only reason you would want to TALK with her is to continue your HITTING and COURTING. Fuck that. She KNEW what you wanted. You were needy. You hung too long before mustering the nerve to chat. too. You EXPECTED more from her than just a chat. Oh boy buddy, lots of errors. Riddled with ’em. Typical man stuff. Now you know WHY its called an ART. :) >And walk away. After about another 10 minutes of flustered on-looking (around 1pm now), I call it a night and head home. Feedback? Friday night? 1am head home? nope, add another hour, dont leave til 2am. take a nap after work before you head out. Do this 4 times a week and tell us what happens each time. We will help you with valuable info on what to do and what NOT to do and your learning curve will soar.

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================================================================ fastseduction.com database fetch, author: Mystery (105) -> view this article on fastseduction.com (for select & copy) ================================================================ author: "Mystery" date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 04:00:00 GMT newsgroup: alt.seduction.fast subject: Re: A hello, and My past Friday night (3 strike outs) ALWAYS carry a pad and pen with you.

ALWAYS

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================================================================ fastseduction.com database fetch, author: Mystery (106) -> view this article on fastseduction.com (for select & copy) ================================================================ author: "Mystery" date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 04:00:00 GMT newsgroup: alt.seduction.fast subject: Re: A hello, and My past Friday night (3 strike outs) consider learning sleight of hand with a pen. This will come in handy OFTEN. Take the pen and before you give it you say, "check this out" and make it vanish. That’s a coy and playful surprise.

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Re: Julian Writes and Mystery Responds and sash takes... / 107

R e : J u lian Wr ite s an d M ys te ry R e s p o n d s an d s as h take s ... / 107

================================================================ fastseduction.com database fetch, author: Mystery (107) -> view this article on fastseduction.com (for select & copy) ================================================================ author: "Mystery" date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 04:00:00 GMT newsgroup: alt.seduction.fast subject: Re: Julian Writes and Mystery Responds and sash takes the rebound Hahaa

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================================================================ fastseduction.com database fetch, author: Mystery (108) -> view this article on fastseduction.com (for select & copy) ================================================================ author: "Mystery" date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 04:00:00 GMT newsgroup: alt.seduction.fast subject: Re: THE TRUTH ABOUT JIMMY THE HUN I filtered JIMMY out so I sorta have no clue what you are talking about here but Id rather be confused than irritated. Lamo - consider KILL FILING him too. Its a good thing. :)

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R e : S T AT IS T ICSfo th e H U N T / 109

================================================================ fastseduction.com database fetch, author: Mystery (109) -> view this article on fastseduction.com (for select & copy) ================================================================ author: "Mystery" date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 04:00:00 GMT newsgroup: alt.seduction.fast subject: Re: STATISTICS of the HUNT >This past weekend while I was waiting for my date to arrive at the club, I was just too shy to initiate a conversation with some of the ladies there. I felt bad about it because I have spent a lot of time reading how to do this, but I think I learn best by observation. Your logic is self-sabotaging you. Learning by watching is not acceptable. You know that man. You have to get out there. You cant learn how to drive a car by watching someone do it. You have to get behind the wheel. Others can tell you the basics, but you need to really DRIVE to learn. Do you have your license? Its exactly the same learning curve buddy. 100% the same thing.

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Re: Where’s the FLAME WAR???? / 110

R e : Wh e r e ’s th e FLAM EWAR ???? / 110

================================================================ fastseduction.com database fetch, author: Mystery (110) -> view this article on fastseduction.com (for select & copy) ================================================================ author: "Mystery" date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 04:00:00 GMT newsgroup: alt.seduction.fast subject: Re: Where’s the FLAME WAR???? >I know how to get a lady already . Im sure we would enjoy cherry picking your tree of knowledge. Do you have any ripe cherries of insightful info to offer us? Maybe you know something that may allow us to sharpen our abilities. HOW do you get a lady? What examples can you offer us? Flame wars are good for alt.flame but we are more interested in results and not yak. That is why we are here. That is why we have KILL FILED Jimmy The HuN. Do you have anything to offer or any questions to ask? If not, thank you for your time. Looking forward to hearing from you. Mystery

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================================================================ fastseduction.com database fetch, author: Mystery (111) -> view this article on fastseduction.com (for select & copy) ================================================================ author: "Mystery" date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 04:00:00 GMT newsgroup: alt.seduction.fast subject: Re: THE TRUTH ABOUT JIMMY THE HUN I must admit that I had sex days another time, but this This was an accumulation of for myself. But 5 girls in The math just isnt there.

with 3 girls in didnt come from girlfriends and 7 days all just

one day once and 4 girls in 3 meeting them in the same week. finally setting up a fuck day met? They cant ALL be hotties.

I like to talk about Jimmy now because he has filtered my posts by now. And if he was a shmuck enough NOT to, then he would know by now at least that I filtered HIM out. Ahh, its such a cleansing feeling to filter. :) He may be wasting many hours posting about me and if he is, please dont tell me, I couldnt care less.

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Re: Do I have to be a jerk to use SS? / 112

R e : D o I h ave to b e a je rk to u s e S S ? / 112

================================================================ fastseduction.com database fetch, author: Mystery (112) -> view this article on fastseduction.com (for select & copy) ================================================================ author: "Mystery" date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 04:00:00 GMT newsgroup: alt.seduction.fast subject: Re: Do I have to be a jerk to use SS? >I have read a little about Speed Seduction, including some of the "Get Laid" newsletters and excerpts from the srcinal book. I’m wondering whether I should try it, but I have a few problems with it. It seems rather woman-hating (at least Ross Jeffries says some pretty horrible things about women in the book and newsletters), and the most of the examples of things to say are things I can’t imagine myself saying, let along imagine working. (Going up to a woman and describing to her what it’s like for a woman to feel horny seems rather transparent, and prefacing it with something to the effect of "My friend was telling me about this girl he knows, and she sometimes feels like this" doesn’t make it any easier. Not to mention that it doesn’t seem very honest.) Hello and welcome to our little room. Everyone here comes with different philosophical background. Some with to get laid, others wish to womanize (use women), while others wish to attract a woman for marriage. This NG (newsgroup) is not primarily concerned with the reasons WHY you wish to attract women. Whether for ego boosting sport or for fulfilling your needs for intimacy, this NG is concerned with the HOW and not the WHY. Ross Jeffries has his motivations and so do I. They are different. If you want to fuck girls or make love to them, it doesnt concern us. We are tolerant of the fact that all men wish to have sex with girls. Humans are polygamous by nature. Through cultural bias we often suppress this by adhering to limiting behaviors thanks to confining beliefs from such repressive organizations as the Christian church. We dont give a fuck whether you want to fuck one girl at a time or sleep with 10 at once. Health issues are YOUR responsibility. Moral issues are YOUR responsibility. We offer ideas on the HOW. We already KNOW WHY men want women. We also know through science that men wish to bed many women (120,000 years of human evolution have naturally selected behaviors which motivate a man to cheat and lie because cheaters and liars have the advantage of bedding more women and therefore replicating more of their selfish lying and cheating genes.) Like it or not, polygamy is here to stay from a scientific point of view. All we care about here are results. SS DOES have many interesting ideas. NOTHING realistically works 100% of the time, but Ross has very good ideas. You’d be surprised what works best. RESULTS! Thats all we care about here. Oh and a quick word about honesty ... FUCK HONESTY. I say this from an evolutionary stand-point. Consider reading The Selfish Gene by biologist Richard Dawkins or watch The Sexes documentary series on The Learning Channel.

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>I am not a woman-hater. I don’t want to hurt anyone, and I don’t want to manipulate anyone into doing something she’ll later regret. Nor am I. Other MAY be certainly, that’s not MY concern. You don’t have to be nor do I. We dont give a shit about the philosophical underpinnings of the WHY. The HOW is all we care about. Cherry pick what is best for you. remember though, that many of things we talk about are written because they WORK. RESULTS. >However, I don’t think that sex with me is something that anyone should regret. I’m a decent man. I treat people with respect. I’m honest. I’m reasonably handsome. I have no diseases. I make a good living. I keep a clean home. I’m an attentive lover. I even have a large penis and good stamina (despite a relative lack of experience). You have realisically defined me. The concept of the ASSHOLE getting more girls than the NICE GUY is partly true though. It has to do with self-respect. Women will test you by shitting on you a bit when you meet her and you must not allow her to shit on you. You will WIN by ’acting’ like an asshole and therefore not allowing them to shit on you. NICE GUYS finish last because they ALLOW the woman to shit on them. >Considering all the ugly, disease-spreading, parasitic jerks out there who somehow seem to be able to get beautiful women into bed despite treating them badly, I’m sure there are a lot of beautiful women out there who would be much happier sleeping with me instead. The Art of Attraction is an art of the mind. This is not a game of yatzee. Its a game of chess. The ugly jerks you refer to may get a girl or two (usually ugly girls) but the smart guys understand that behaving like a ladies man gets more girls. By systematic investigation we discover what works and what doesnt, share the info so we dont have to reinvent the wheel and get results. This has nothing to do with being a dirty jerk. This is an elitist group. You need a brain. You need to be sober. You need to take care of your body. You need to learn how to be attentive. This is no easy game of tic tac toe. I am a perfect gentleman. Consider Gone with the Wind (Rhett Butler). He was a cool guy, but when the Scarlet acted up, he didnt take her shit. Self-respect - is that being an asshole? hmmm. >My problem is a lack of social skills, if not life skills altogether. (I think a big part of it is that I’m so afraid of doing anything that will offend or upset somebody that I end up not doing or saying anything at all.) I have a very hard time making friends or lovers. You seem to be suffering from NICE GUY SYNDROM. We call them LAMOs. Nothing personal. Here you are, such a smart guy, all clean cut and purdy and yet you cant consistantly get women to find you attractive. See? This has nothing to do with natural looks. Its all about behavior. How you behave weekly to alow the statisitics to work for you and how to behave infront of a state changing beauty. NICE GUYS go home alone when the SMART GUY gets the girls. NICE GUYS call the SMART GUYS ... ASSHOLES. Funny, isnt it?!!!

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>Despite what I have said above (and I don’t think that this is a contradiction, although I can understand that some people will perceive it that way), I am not looking for a deep, monogamous relationship. I just want to make some friends, have some fun, and have some sex, preferably with a variety of beautiful women. (Preferably simultaneously, but I’m getting ahead of myself here.) That is an honest WHY. Happens to be MINE too. A little bit of QUALITY with QUANTITY. Not overly unrealistic. I suggest you begin by accepting the NEWBIE MISSION. >So what will work for me?

Can SS help me?

Cherry pick the best ideas for you. >Let me preempt certain lines of discussion by mentioning some advice I do not want to hear: "Preempt" - good word. You will be fine. This art is not for the idiots of the world. This is entirely an intellectual game. You will gain many insights here. SS is a good start ... MINUS the SEXIST connotation ... we understand where Ross is coming from though. He means well and has helped provide both information and a forum for womanizers and pick-up artists alike. >* Toastmasters.

I’ve tried it.

It didn’t help.

(I didn’t stick with it

for very long, because I found it to be an uncomfortable experience.) I’ve tried more than one group, so it wasn’t a problem with the group I happened to try. Do a 4 hour session in a public gathering NEWBIE MISSION STYLE. you learning quickly.

That’ll get

>* Therapy. I’ve been in and out of therapy all my life, with a number of different therapists. I have always tried to go in with an open mind, but it hasn’t helped. And it has been expensive. Consider reading The Demon Haunted World by Carl Sagan to appreciate the VALUE (or lack of value) of therapy. Science and skepticism rules. Try The Skeptics Dictionary on the net. >* "Just be yourself. Eventually..." I’ve been waiting for "eventually" for a very long time. I need to start seeing some progress. BULLSHIT! We care only about RESULTS. "If you keep doing what you;ve always done, you’ll keep getting what you’ve always gotten." The change must come from YOU. Change NOW and not eventually or LOSE to those who do. Enjoy the art of it. Read what ART means sometime.

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>* "Having sex with lots of beautiful women isn’t going to make you happy." I’d like to decide that for myself. I’m quite convinced that it will improve my life. It does. Honestly. From a pretty damned intelligent 26 year old man, it does. Its a matter of realizing global priorities. Fulfill your hierarchy of needs. Sex is high on this list. >Even if I don’t find the experience fantastically enjoyable (which I find hard to imagine), I’ll certainly feel a lot better about myself having proved to myself that I’m capable of it. Yes, it IS an ego boost. However, once you get into this game, you will soon realize that the CHASE is sometimes MORE rewarding than the CATCH. Welcome to the GAME of LIFE :)

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Re: Julian Writes and Mystery Responds and sash takes... / 113

R e : J u lian Wr ite s an d M ys te ry R e s p o n d s an d s as h take s ... / 113

================================================================ fastseduction.com database fetch, author: Mystery (113) -> view this article on fastseduction.com (for select & copy) ================================================================ author: "Mystery" date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 04:00:00 GMT newsgroup: alt.seduction.fast subject: Re: Julian Writes and Mystery Responds and sash takes the rebound and MYSTERY!

Yeahh!!!

and Jimmy the HuN!

Dow!!!

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Re: NEWBIE MISSION results / 114

R e :N EWB IEM IS S IO N re s u lts/114

================================================================ fastseduction.com database fetch, author: Mystery (114) -> view this article on fastseduction.com (for select & copy) ================================================================ author: "Mystery" date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 04:00:00 GMT newsgroup: alt.seduction.fast subject: Re: NEWBIE MISSION results Seriously, so far everything is the truth. I find it a little sad when people think that my stories sound too far fetched actually but I do appreciate your skepticism. I have not embellished even though. Thing is, the stories I have given arent even the BEST times. I have only been laid by ONE girl this week. Im not a fucking awesome stud or anything. I just TRY. I met alot of women but few have panned out to sex. That is why I am here. To INCREASE my ... LUCK :) >when I’m "just being myself". being "YOURSELF" when you are in the AWARE state is to behave like every other man out there. You have to behave like you ARENT in the AWARE state only a LADIES MAN would feel NORMAL around a great girl. >I just haven’t developed my personality to the degree necessary to feel comfortable in these situations, or perhaps my personality type is such that I’m just not cut out to be a "ladies man". Even an ugly guy who BEHAVES as if he is a ladies man will be percieved AS a ladies man. Its a wonderful illusion. And then 3 weeks later, after you have fucked 5 girls, you will look back and notice you ARE one. Tricking The AWARE State is where I believe you must focus on. Consider the NEWBIE MISSION to work on this. >I love everything about women, not just in a physical sense, but also I enjoy just being around women, and my inability to feel complete in this area of my life is a constant source of frustration. I hear ya buddy. Play the game 4 times a day. 4 hour sessions and you will notice how things will change. Do the NEWBIE MISSION for a week. Hit 12 girls a day which is 3 an hour. Currently I would wager you hit on 1 or 2 girls a week. This must turn into 3 an hour, 4 hour sessions, 4 days a week or a total of 48 girls a week. This is my realistic # of entries. Can you see how things will change with this sort of focus? You HAVE the time. You just need to use your intellect to raise the bar on the # of entires you make. >Also, however, I admit that I am and always have been a conservative person at the core, and even though I can see the value in other approaches, I cannot help but be very concerned that I maintain my (perhaps twisted) sense of class and dignity when interacting with women, or anyone for that matter. I believe a TRUE artist ALWAYS maintains a sense of class and dignity. Picking up women means NOT to look like a cheesy pick-up artist. Appear to be a ladies man! As if you get tonnes of women, but you dont try. See, you

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never HIT on the girls.


Ahh, you will soon discover the details of the art.

>So, when considering the idea of approaching a woman at random and initiating a conversation about Elvis, I just can’t do it. It just doesn’t feel right. If you were to see it in action by a classy man, you would understand and appreciate the timing and playfulness of such an entry. Consider watching Rhett Butler. On screen and in real life ... two entirely different things. Man, I wish I could show you on video or something. Maybe I need someone to follow me with a cam to capture the essence of this entry. Sorry you don’t get it on screen. Honest, Im a casual suit wearing tall slender man and not a boy or teen or kid. This playful entry must be seen to be appreciated. >Perhaps there are some cultural differences between Canada and Southern California. In general, people here, including myself, are very private, very aware of their personal space, and somewhat self-centered and unconcerned about the activities of the people around them. It’s just the societal norm here to exhibit this behavior. People don’t just go around talking to strangers like it "ain’t no thing". I lived in Ft. Lauderdale for 9 months. I anticipate a similar quality to there and Cali. Trust me, it works. I wish I could invite you out to watch me work it. Its quite playful and unassuming. >cockiness Yes, Ft. Lauderdale is the same.

And yet, I did very well there.

>I enjoy the competitive nature of people here, and in most areas of my life I am very successful, including my personal relationships. I have everything I could want in my life at this point, except for success with women. To a TRUE pick-up artist, there is NO competition. Since I got good at it, the compeition honestly disappeared. I get chosen over the other guys in the public gathering because I convey personality traits attractive to women. Other guys MAY be better than me, but they fail to convey this to the women. That is what the elvis thing does for example. >Let me try to explain why. I’ll begin by considering how I would feel if someone came up to me and said "Hi. Did you know Elvis died his hair? Guess what color his hair was srcinally?" I can tell you for a fact that I would look at this person, male or female, and say "What? What the fuck are you talking about?" And I would make it very clear with my demeanor that I had no further interest in talking to this person unless they could offer a suitable explanation as to why they were asking me a meaningless question like this. You dont say this scripting SERIOUSLY silly. Its a fun playful matter of fact on the spot timing thing. You have to ACT like you were just thinking of this and ... ahh, before I continue, it appears to me you are far too chicken shit to try it. Try it already and after 5 girls, tell me what happens. Or ... can’t you?!! Its not rocket science. Its playful. Its unassuming. Its like you are taking a joke and ripping it apart so that it

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is out of context and no longer funny. Just do it already. try it. SMILE when you approach. This script allows you to display playful confidence without HITTING on her. Just do it already. You will notice how people will think of you as fun. Be FUN. You want to come off as this great guy. Well, be fun. This script shows her how you think. An interesting twisted way of thinking. Its fun. Do it already. 5 times. Tell me the details of your report. >I’d still have to go on from there and try to get her to understand what the hell I was doing. And this is where I hit a brick wall, because I really can’t understand myself what the hell it is that I would be trying to do. I mean, if the idea is to make these random statements and say "Pleasure meeting you." and walk away, then that’s fine, but I’m not really interested in establishing a reputation for myself on campus as the dude who walks up to girls and says wacked out things. THis isnt a wacky thing. Wacky is running up to girls and sticking your tongue out. Dude, man. You are missing the CONTEXT of this. TRY it. Oh, and there IS no brick wall. After this, say, "Pleasure meeting you" and walk off. You arent supposed to continue. there IS no wall. >As a matter of fact, I can honestly say that I would rather just go through college and never even talk to a single nice-looking female than approach even one in a manner that is going to lead to her walking away thinking "Ah...O.K.". I just can’t do that to myself...it’s just not me. OK then ... wow.

You wont take the chance of failure for the chance of

succeeding. YOU are a LAMO then. NICE GUY huh. that. Bye then. Shit or get off the post.

Oh well.

Sorry to hear

>I’ve got to have an INTRO that leads me into a conversation that I can carry on my own, a conversation that demonstrates that I had a valid purpose for approaching her, whatever that purpose may be. No. you are wrong. you just dont know it yet. Im a 26 year old man who has made it w2ith 57 women. Im not a huge stud, but I care about efficient results. All I have is my testamonial right here. thats it. Take it or leave it. You are wrong. You do NOT need to have a valid purpose. ESPECIALLY because any reason will look like a pick up reason. The elvis thing is a spur of the moment thought thing. Its cool. Its consise. Its real. >And this conversation needs to be one that gets her involved in a way that she really WANTS to be involved. And until I am struck by a divine intervention that uncovers something, anything that I can say to these women, I fear I could be cursed with a life of celibacy from this point forward, and thus, I am still yours truly, RightHandMan. The NEWBIE MISSION is used to get USED to sure thing entry and exit. Its tried and YOU were too nervous werent you? Now you Get it over with. Try and fail. Guts it

approaching women. The ELVIS is a tested. SMILE when you say it. have every excuse you can muster. out. NOW.

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>I guess I’m hoping that this divine intervention comes in the form of someone on this newsgroup enlightening me with the right idea of what I might possibly be able to say. As it is now, I’m just like Mystery says when it comes to my ability to strike up a conversation...I’m "just another lamo." Sorry to say buddy, but YEP.

100% NICE GUY, SHY GUY, LONELY GUY.

LAMO GUY.

>What I need is a way to demonstrate that I’m different, a way to my distinguish myself, but I’ve got to be able to do this without coming off as a wacko, given the fact that I live in this strange place called Southern California. Hmmm ... consider the ELVIS scripting. You’d be surprised how this fits EXACTLY what you just said you are looking for. Are you afraid they wont know that you are hitting on them or something? Afraid of ... failure? I challenge you.

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R e : S T AT IS T ICSfo th e H U N T / 115

================================================================ fastseduction.com database fetch, author: Mystery (115) -> view this article on fastseduction.com (for select & copy) ================================================================ author: "Mystery" date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 04:00:00 GMT newsgroup: alt.seduction.fast subject: Re: STATISTICS of the HUNT nice, very nice. it :)

i bet you we could elaborate on this but its great.

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LOVE


Re: THE BARNUM AND BAILEY OF SEDUCERS?? / 116

R e :T H EB AR N U MAN D B AILEYO FS ED U CER S ??/116

================================================================ fastseduction.com database fetch, author: Mystery (116) -> view this article on fastseduction.com (for select & copy) ================================================================ author: "Mystery" date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 04:00:00 GMT newsgroup: alt.seduction.fast subject: Re: THE BARNUM AND BAILEY OF SEDUCERS?? Jolly, kindly FILTER Jimmy out. I enjoy reading your posts but ones about Jimmy Flames bore me. Just zap him onto your KILL FILE. Simple, clean and solved.

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================================================================ fastseduction.com database fetch, author: Mystery (117) -> view this article on fastseduction.com (for select & copy) ================================================================ author: "Mystery" date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 04:00:00 GMT newsgroup: alt.seduction.fast subject: Re: A hello, and My past Friday night (3 strike outs) I gave this alot of thought ... and this is very SOUND advice. internalize this into my being. Thank you.

Good tip.

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I will




================================================================ fastseduction.com database fetch, author: Mystery (118) -> view this article on fastseduction.com (for select & copy) ================================================================ author: "Mystery" date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 04:00:00 GMT newsgroup: alt.seduction.fast subject: Re: A hello, and My past Friday night (3 strike outs) >Big whooping truth #1: It ain’t gonna happen for you at clubs/bars. You’ve got to have the "super mack" mentality and approach.

Why?

Clubs are TOUGH TURF. Women have their guard way up, and are going to have to be exceptionally impressed to give you so much as the time of day. How you gain their favorable opinion is highly debatable; this NG seems to favor the "negative hit" approach - which works quite wonderfully I’m sorry to have to disagree. You need to be better at disarming them with humour. You CANNOT enter with SEX on the BRAIN. NO HITTING. NO PICKING UP. Have fun, make them laugh and convey confidence, connection, smile and humour. Then they will want you because every other guys doesnt do this. They do shit like give beers and other stereotypical mating ritual things. You dont do that and you are IN baby IN. Honest. You havent had a chance to work the club PROPERLY. You do NOT have to be a mack. Swear. >Now, as how to handle that situation with the pen, I would have said something to the effect of, "WHAT? So you can write down one of those GEEKS’ phone numbers? MY number!"

Shouldn’t you be asking THEM for a pen to write down

Funny and close to the mark, but putting down someone you dont know makes you look bad. Remove the geek part and keep the rest. The connotation of her wanting YOUR number will show that you THINK of them as not as QUALITY as you. But again, the real pick-up artist would have entered into the situation before this pen thing would have come up. A real artist would enter by meeting the men first.

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Re: Introductions / 119

R e : In tr o d u ctio n s / 119

================================================================ fastseduction.com database fetch, author: Mystery (119) -> view this article on fastseduction.com (for select & copy) ================================================================ author: "Mystery" date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 04:00:00 GMT newsgroup: alt.seduction.fast subject: Re: Introductions >Do you really give a rats ass what her name is? I know I don’t. going to help you conversationally.

Within 5 seconds it’s not

Yes I care. Knowing someone’s name is to show respect for the individual. You’d be surprised how a smile can disarm the attitude of a girl. This does not have to be your opeing script, but it should be said within the first minute. AND it should be negotiated by the man. Playfully smile and say, "Hi. Im Harry. :)" Immediately after this, have something to say ... nothing sexual, nothing hitting. Just yak. "Have you ever been to the science centre? I just got back from there and I learned something rather odd. They’ve got this bubble chamber that allows you to see natural radiation from our surroundings. Have you seen this? Well, it turns out, I’m looking at this thing and ..." and there you are into a natural conversation. Handshaking and name exchanges are required at some point known as negotiating. >Personally I never ask what a girls name is.

I wait

for her to initiate the introductions. This is good way to tell if she is interested as well. I disagree mildly. Its more dominant to initiate the handshake or name exchange first. A ladies-man is a man who is in CONTROL. He is the man with the plan. He is strong, and well-mannered. He is Rhett Butler. And Rhett Butler is pleasant and commanding. YOU introduce yourself to her. Dont wait for her to do the work. HOwever, if a test is what you want to do, then tell her your name but dont ask hers. If she is well mannered and polite AND interested in you, she will tell you HER name. If not, just stand there looking at her waiting for her to say something. If she says, "what?" Then you can neg hit her with, "you dont get out much do you?"

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================================================================ fastseduction.com database fetch, author: Mystery (120) -> view this article on fastseduction.com (for select & copy) ================================================================ author: "Mystery" date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 04:00:00 GMT newsgroup: alt.seduction.fast subject: Re: A hello, and My past Friday night (3 strike outs) >Sounds hard to me. So say you’re in a club, and you look around, and catch a glimpse of a girl looking at you, but looking away immediately. This may happen several times, what do you do ? You can’t wave, nod or say hi, when she’s not looking. And tapping on the shoulder is generally considered intrusive, I’ve noticed. SOLUTION: smile. When she looks fo rhte very FIRST time, smile BIG and say "Hi." THAT’s the 3 second rule. You will get used to saying hi and smiling to EVERY beautiful girl everywhere you go. No you already have come off as playful and pleasant. If you miss this first opportunity to do this, you risk STALING out the girl. That is what you keep getting yourself into. You STALE the entry so you feel awkward to approach. Why? Because you know she knows you have sex on your brain. You have no other reason to approach her. Thats STALE. Now if you smiled and said hello in the first 3 seconds of seeing her, then you can immediately start chatting. Its natural this way.

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Re: Hi again, and an ongoing encounter / 121

R e :H iag ain ,an dan o n g o in ge n co u n te r/121

================================================================ fastseduction.com database fetch, author: Mystery (121) -> view this article on fastseduction.com (for select & copy) ================================================================ author: "Mystery" date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 04:00:00 GMT newsgroup: alt.seduction.fast subject: Re: Hi again, and an ongoing encounter >I didn’t want to bother her too much while she was at work BS excuse. If you dont BOTHER her, some other guy WILL - he’ll BOTHER her pussy while you are at home bothering your HAND. >I took out one of my business cards, wrote a short message on the back of it (basically letting her know I was interested, and telling her I’d be disappointed if she didn’t call) NEVER EVER EVER give a business card to a girl. Its impersonal and ALL the guys do it. She wont call. She throws it out. You cant just give a # expecting to get a call back. Thats absurd man. Write on a piece of paper and that is more personal. But still, you have to get HER #. Consider since you had the time crunch of a few seconds, "Have you ever been to The Acme Coffee Pub on Main St? Well, I’d like to meet you there sometime. Away from work ... I’ll be hanging there with friends tonight. Drop on by. I’ve got pictures of my trip to Cancun I’m bringing down to show my friends ... ever been? I’ll see you at 8pm ok? Im sure we have lots to talk about :)" write the name and address on the paper for her. Thats better. You have to get rid of the time constraint to begin seducing her. A # on a piece of paper wont seduce her. Get her out of the bad enviroment into one where you CAN work on her. Tell her to bring some girlfriends. When you leave, call up all your buddys and tell them you come on down to meet some girls. >Needless to say, she hasn’t called yet. DOW!

Ya think?!!!!

>But how could I go about finding out why she never called, or should I even bother? It’ll probably be another 2 weeks before I go back to the Bank and see her again (unless I make an exception). What should/could I do/say to pursue this further? Feedback? You BLEW it. You copped out HOPING this lame easy way out would work. She didnt call because you werent srcinal, humorous, you didnt connect, you werent fun and playful, you didnt INTEREST her, you didnt spark off her curiousity. You then made her feel UNCOMFORTABLE when you came back. Its easier for her to ignore you than to go out with someone who isnt cool enough to meet me properly. It was a big lamo attempt. Sorry man, Ive done shit like this in my younger years too. It doesnt work. You could have

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simply invited her to another place where her friends and your friends could mingle. Ask her, "I plan on going out tonight, what with it being Friday. Whats a happening place?" When she tells you say, "I’d like to meet you there - you can buy me a drink." She’ll say something shitty like, "I’ll buy YOU a drink?" And you say, "Yes - if I bought YOU a drink, that would be bigtime stereotypically lame. You arent attracted to stereotypical guys ... are you?. Its cool to have a girl buy a guy a drink. So thats our plan tonight. Is there a pool table? Ok, You buy me a drink and I’ll take care of the pool table. Fair? Ill see you there ... and I wont let you win and be easy on you with our game of pool! Bye :)" See the logic here? Get her OUT of the BAD TIME CONTRAINT SITUATION and into YOUR TURF. PUBLIC TURF is safe turf.

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Re: Joly Green Giant?? More like an Ugly Mofo?? / 122

R e : J o ly Gre e n Gian t?? M o r e like an U g ly M o fo ?? / 122

================================================================ fastseduction.com database fetch, author: Mystery (122) -> view this article on fastseduction.com (for select & copy) ================================================================ author: "Mystery" date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 04:00:00 GMT newsgroup: alt.seduction.fast subject: Re: Joly Green Giant?? More like an Ugly Mofo?? I met him - he’s just a kid who hasnt learned how to treat women with respect ... why? Well, he hasnt learned how to treat HIMSELF with respect. That is why he FLAMES people. Its a childish notion learned through his parents beatings. It makes him feel better to FLAME others now. Jimmy my boy, let it go. You lose. Start talking about stuff that WORKS - thats all we care about. Blah blah blah talk from you. Dude, I’ve gotten many new insights that have actually helped me in the real world. I may be a goof myself, but Im trying to work that out of my persona. You arent perfect. Listen. Learn. and when you have something good to say, teach us. Give info that is helpful. You say you have the answers? Well, give them. We are waiting guy. As I have FILTERED him out, Im only getting a trickle of him via other posts. If people start talking nicely about your contribution, hey ... I might even remove you from my KILL FILE one day. Unlikely so far though.

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Re: MY heuristic. How I, personally found the truth, ... / 123

R e : M Yh e u r is tic. H o wI, p e r s o n ally fo u n d th e tru th , ... /123

================================================================ fastseduction.com database fetch, author: Mystery (123) -> view this article on fastseduction.com (for select & copy) ================================================================ author: "Mystery" date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 04:00:00 GMT newsgroup: alt.seduction.fast subject: Re: MY heuristic. How I, personally found the truth, & how it relates to Mystery’s yes I agree - apply the 3 second rule to everybody. But the hits should be sincere and fun and playful. I can see how complimenting her ALOUD shows confidence on your part. You arent just being a LAMO complimenting her the same as everyone else. If you act it up, you come off with more CONTROL. You are saying it in a fun plafyful way. It works. Ive done sometimes. However, to compliment a girl’s anatomy is one thing, but to compliment something ELSE out loud is ANOTHER. "You are soooo CLASSY! Wow! You’ve got ... ssssSSStyle! You know who else had style? Pierce Brosnan as 007. But I bet you’d make a better spy"

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================================================================ fastseduction.com database fetch, author: Mystery (124) -> view this article on fastseduction.com (for select & copy) ================================================================ author: "Mystery" date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 04:00:00 GMT newsgroup: alt.seduction.fast subject: Re: NEWBIE MISSION results I have no sympathy for you not having the guts to TRY. You should be hitting on 50 women a week, not 1 a year. No wonder you get nothing. If you hit on 50 a week (lets say 48 a week) thats 12 a day for 4 days. 12 a day. If you went out for a 4 hour session of girl getting, thats 3 an hour. To approach 3 girls in an hour is standard. Head to a public gathering and approach 1 girl in a 20 minute period. This isnt rocket science, its simple statistics. You dont have TIME to be nervous. Most girls will not remember you. But the ones who do will really REALLY remember you. Know what I mean, jelly bean? You are wussing out from defining and focusing on what is important to you. Commit to the change already. CHANGE. START the NEWBIE MISSION! TODAY! >I’m very aware of the FACT that if I use the approach that seems natural to me I will fail miserably 99% of the time when approaching a woman. Thus, to avoid the miserable feeling of feeling foolish I just don’t approach any women. And this means you are like MOST guys on the planet - you must settle for the low quality lonely girls. Good for you. Enjoy your choice. >O.K., but what is supposed to happen? I mean, the results are quite predictable. I could approach these five women, run the Elvis scipt, say "Pleasure meeting you.", and walk away hearing them saying, "Ah, O.K.". How would this script lead to any results that differ from this? You have to be willing to fail to succeed. You wont get these girls, but you will fight this fear you have. Ah forget it man, you are too chicken to be a player if you keep talking shit like this. Blah blah excuse excuse. Just fucking go and do it for a week. You cant though can you? You have no clue what will be learned from it. Just do it already. >O.K., fine. So we’ll assume this is an exercise designed to help us to become more comfortable approaching women. Now, let’s say I do this 20 times or 200 times and I’m now feeling comfortable approaching women with the Elvis script. What would you suggest that I do at that point to actually start getting results? I’ll give you the next MISSION when the NEWBIE MISSION is complete. >But the problem is I never know what to say. You do now - its the ELVIS script.

And then walk away.

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Do it so you can


learn from it. learning.

Its a great exersise.

>Also, as opposed to a club situation, somehow express my interest, it’s more her again. So, at some point, I’ve got looking for the first time I approach,


Just stop yer yakking and start

if I approach a girl and I don’t likely than not that I will NEVER see to find a way to get the results I’m within a short few minutes.

Its like talking to a cat. To do the elvis thing is to enter and exit smoothly. learn this first so you can feel safe about the fact that you wont BOMB in the future. Get comfortable with the approach. Stop thinking. Stop analyzing your love life. You have no references to think about this. Just go out and do it fuck already. Blah blah blah. >When you ask for newbies to post their results of using the Elvis script, what do you expect the results will be? What has happened when YOU have approached a woman and said this? Of the women you’ve fucked, how many of them did you initially approach with the Elvis script? And how did you get from the "Pleasure meeting you." to the bedroom? All these things will be answered when you DO it for a week. Hold your skepticism for ONE WEEK and do it. Look man, I wouldnt stear you wrong. You’ll see. PERFECT the elvis routine. Get the timing and the playfulness of this routine internalized. go DO it already. You are just so fucking chicken shit dude. Trust that you will learn everything you need to. WAX ON, WAX OFF, WAX ON, WAX OFF. >I’m not trying to put you on the spot...I’m just trying to understand what role the Elvis script stuff plays in getting the results I’m looking for. you’ll see :)

give it a try on 20 women in a day.

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================================================================ fastseduction.com database fetch, author: Mystery (125) -> view this article on fastseduction.com (for select & copy) ================================================================ author: "Mystery" date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 04:00:00 GMT newsgroup: alt.seduction.fast subject: Re: NEWBIE MISSION results >That is, the only women that are "prospects" for me right now are women that I’ve never met before, and the social situation in which I’m encountering these women is one in which they are not expecting to be approached by and/or conversing with people they do not know. Welcome to life. This is EVERYONE’s main venue for girl getting. This is getting a little pathetic. Your going through the death throws of KNOWING you have to change and tunnel through this barrier that ALL pick-up artists went through. >You’ve got 20,000 women on a campus walking or sitting or whatever, and they all have something that they are busy doing, and even if they are open to being approached by a stranger, they certainly aren’t expecting it. What a fucking excuse man! Fucking lame already. What, and NONE of these girls have time for SEX? You are nuts dude. You are creating an observational bias.

You are WRONG.

Tell him guys.

>So, it’s only logical, given these circumstances, that a woman’s first reaction when I approach her is to try to figure out the reason that I’m approaching her. Yep. And when she cant figure out why you are talking to her because you arent hitting on her, she will find this intriguing. I KNOW :) >Because of the situation, she’s not likely to be too open to ANYONE blatantly hitting on her, so if she detects this she’s going to be putting up her defense mechanisms quickly. Yes I agree. Seeing as talking about Elvis is NOT hitting on her ... fuck man, this is too painful for you isnt it? You are a very lonely man. >That’s not to say that this can’t be done; just that I haven’t had much success with it and don’t anticipate that I ever will. Bye then. >Note, however, that even if I approach a woman in a conversational, friendly, light-hearted, and funny way, without blatantly hitting on her, she’s still going to be trying to figure out why this person she’s never seen before is suddenly trying to strike up a conversation.

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Yes thats true. And when you leave without having hit on her, she will feel insecure. Maybe she’s not attractive to you. She will try harder now. She knows you are funny and playful and confident but you didnt hit on her. Confusing for her. You arent like all the others. You have a mystery abou you. Forget it man. Be lonely. >I need to have an approach that somehow assures her that I am not hitting on her, while also indicating some purpose other than that why I would be approaching her. NOPE. You dont need a purpose. Your only purpose was to talk about Elvis. "Why di he do THAT?" Mysterious but playful. >Otherwise, she’s not going to understand, and she’s not going to be willing to just sit there and chat and have a real good time. In a different social situation, yes, but in an environment like this, no way. You are wrong - youll see. >What I’m looking for is a way to approach women in an UNNATURAL setting and somehow accomplish these two things: 1) Determine how to contact her, or let her know how to contact me 2) Establish in her an interest in getting to know me further Not yet. Work on #2, fuck #1 for now. If you cant do the Elvis script successfully, you certainly wont be able to traverse the difficult road of the CLOSE effectively. Boy you need help. >What I need is a way to initiate a conversation that is appropriate and welcomed given the setting and provides the opportunity (framework) for me to work towards the goals described in the above paragraph. Fuck already!

Before you can run you must learn to walk.

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ELVIS rules!


Re: NEWBIES MISSION: results / 126

R e : N EWB IES M IS S IO N : re s u lts / 126

================================================================ fastseduction.com database fetch, author: Mystery (126) -> view this article on fastseduction.com (for select & copy) ================================================================ author: "Mystery" date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 04:00:00 GMT newsgroup: alt.seduction.fast subject: Re: NEWBIES MISSION: results This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00A0_01BDE0ED.91FA1A80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Successes and failures, Ill give it my all. Hey, I was supposed to see those 2 girls from the party yesterday to go = learn swing dancing but they didnt email me. Well I got an email today = from the voluptuous girl. Here it is. >As said by one of the 20th centuries greatest philosphers... "Think left and think right and think low and think high. Oh, the THINKS you can think up if only you try!" -Ted SeussYou seemed enigmatic initially. Now I can’t quite put my finger, or any other part of my anatomy, on it. I wonder about your charisma, was it sincere or part of your chicanery. (ya, okay so I looked that word up in the dictionary) Anyway, I hardly know you well enough to do anything but flirt blatantly, or talk about the weather. It rained today. Pleasure meeting you. xo (the chick who wrote on your back) Hmmm, I think I blew my cover a bit that night huh. HOT SEAT game! OK, so I replied to her:

It was that blasted =

>You seemed enigmatic initially. Initially. Hmm. Im often skeptical about people’s beliefs but rarely = about their emotions. Have you ever been to the science centre? They had an exhibit about perception. Kids went in and played with the interactive games and yet I could tell they never actually understood what was being presented to them. They didnt care to learn. They just played with the colourful and noisy toys. They didnt GET IT, you know? Well, most =

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people live life this way. I seek deeper meaning. I wait around longer to appreciate and focus on something. Some kids just run off to the next exhibit. What a shame to waste such rich opportunities, just because = they dont understand something that may be perceptually complex. Somehow I = think this enigmatic feeling you have has not yet gone away. It wont until = you understand me. Im the entire science center in one head. Lots of = exploring and running around. Lots of lasers and space suits and even a hot = sweaty rain forest. >Now I can’t quite put my finger, or any other part of my anatomy, on = it. I wonder about your charisma, was it sincere or part of your chicanery. Well, while I AM an performing artist, I have enough self-respect to be honest with myself. That way, I can tell people what I enjoy so they = can appreciate these things with me. If I was to lie to people about = myself, I’d be cheating myself out of knowing people who liked my real interests = and not some made up image of me. >Anyway, I hardly know you well enough to do anything but flirt = blatantly, or talk about the weather. It rained today. If weather is all you think we have in common, then we indeed have = little to explore. Its easy to stay home. Its more difficult to move forward and explore. You didnt email me for the Monday night thing which was rather disappointing. You broke one of my rules - if we plan something, at = least TELL me ahead of time if you can’t make it afterall. Is that = respectfully fair? My initial attraction has become tainted by this a bit. OK, next time you can take me somewhere to make it up to me. :) I was truly anticipating our seeing eachother again. I DO want to learn how to = swing too ... who’s to say which I was more anxious for ... to see you or to = learn how to swing. Have you ever had a soft drink that tastes like banana? Im drinking = this stuff right now and it’s so different. The only other time I tasted something like this was a sex-candy liquid thing. Its so odd because = its

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like pavlov’s dog. good thing.


Everytime I drink this my mind goes south.

Its a =

If you rented a lesbian movie and your mom found it in your car, what = would you say to her? Would you say it was a friends or would ou be honest = and tell the truth? Mystery ps: Blatant flirting aside, how about a little subtle inuendo to reveal = our intelligence and sophisication? Ok so I wrote it with a skeptical NEG HIT undertone. This should = HOPEFULLY get her to chase me more. I already know she likes me from = the way we were at the party so its just a matter of our getting = together again. ------=_NextPart_000_00A0_01BDE0ED.91FA1A80 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <META content=3Dtext/html;charset=3Diso-8859-1 = http-equiv=3DContent-Type> <META content=3D’"MSHTML 4.72.2106.6"’ name=3DGENERATOR>
Successes and failures, Ill give it my all.

Hey, I was supposed to see those 2 girls from the party yesterday = to go=20 learn swing dancing but they didnt email me. Well I got an email = today=20 from the voluptuous girl. Here it is.

>As said by one of the 20th centuries greatest=20 philosphers...
"Think left and think right
and think low and = think=20 high.
Oh, the THINKS you can think up
if only you = try!"
-Ted=20 Seuss-

You seemed enigmatic initially. Now I can’t quite put = my=20 finger, or any
other part of my anatomy, on it. I wonder about your = charisma,=20 was it
sincere or part of your chicanery. (ya, okay so I looked that =

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word up=20 in
the dictionary)

Anyway, I hardly know you well enough to do anything but=20 flirt
blatantly, or talk about the weather. It rained=20 today.

Pleasure meeting you.
xo

(the chick who wrote on your back)

Hmmm, I think I blew my cover a bit that night huh. It was = that=20 blasted HOT SEAT game! OK, so I replied to her:

>You seemed enigmatic initially.

Initially. = Hmm. Im often skeptical about people’s beliefs but rarely = about
their=20 emotions. Have you ever been to the science centre? They had = an
exhibit about perception. Kids went in and played with the=20 interactive
games and yet I could tell they never actually understood = what=20 was being
presented to them. They didnt care to learn. = They just=20 played with the
colourful and noisy toys. They didnt GET IT, = you=20 know? Well, most people
live life this way. I seek deeper = meaning. I wait around longer to
appreciate and focus on=20 something. Some kids just run off to the next
exhibit. = What a=20 shame to waste such rich opportunities, just because they
dont = understand=20 something that may be perceptually complex. Somehow I = think
this=20 enigmatic feeling you have has not yet gone away. It wont until=20 you
understand me. Im the entire science center in one = head. Lots=20 of exploring
and running around. Lots of lasers and space suits = and=20 even a hot sweaty
rain forest.

>Now I can’t quite put my = finger, or=20 any other part of my anatomy, on it. I
wonder about your = charisma, was=20 it sincere or part of your chicanery.

Well, while I AM an = performing=20 artist, I have enough self-respect to be
honest with myself. = That way,=20 I can tell people what I enjoy so they can
appreciate these things = with=20 me. If I was to lie to people about myself,
I’d be cheating = myself out=20 of knowing people who liked my real interests and
not some made up =

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image of=20 me.

>Anyway, I hardly know you well enough to do anything but = flirt=20 blatantly,
or talk about the weather. It rained = today.

If=20 weather is all you think we have in common, then we indeed have little=20 to
explore. Its easy to stay home. Its more difficult to = move=20 forward and
explore.

You didnt email me for the Monday night = thing=20 which was rather
disappointing. You broke one of my rules - if = we plan=20 something, at least
TELL me ahead of time if you can’t make it=20 afterall. Is that respectfully
fair? My initial = attraction has=20 become tainted by this a bit. OK, next
time you can take me = somewhere=20 to make it up to me. :) I was truly
anticipating our = seeing=20 eachother again. I DO want to learn how to swing
too ... who’s = to say=20 which I was more anxious for ... to see you or to learn
how to=20 swing.

Have you ever had a soft drink that tastes like = banana? Im=20 drinking this
stuff right now and it’s so different. The only = other=20 time I tasted
something like this was a sex-candy liquid thing. = Its so=20 odd because its
like pavlov’s dog. Everytime I drink this my = mind goes=20 south. Its a good
thing.

If you rented a lesbian movie = and your=20 mom found it in your car, what would
you say to her? Would you = say it=20 was a friends or would ou be honest and
tell the=20 truth?

Mystery

ps: Blatant flirting aside, how about a = little=20 subtle inuendo to reveal our
intelligence and = sophisication?

Ok so I wrote it with a skeptical NEG HIT undertone. This = should=20 HOPEFULLY get her to chase me more. I already know she likes me = from the=20 way we were at the party so its just a matter of our getting together=20 again.
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Re: sex magnet poem / 127

R e : s e x m ag n e t p o e m / 127

================================================================ fastseduction.com database fetch, author: Mystery (127) -> view this article on fastseduction.com (for select & copy) ================================================================ author: "Mystery" date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 04:00:00 GMT newsgroup: alt.seduction.fast subject: Re: sex magnet poem Fascination Have you ever been fascinated by someone who’s words just seemed to PENETRATE you? You and and the

FIND YOURSELF LOOKING you can’t look away the more that you try more that GAZE STAYS

RIVETED HERE where you want it to be cause you know that there’s something you just have to see As you LISTEN SO CLOSE and you START TO WONDER what would it feel like to be FALLING UNDER A spell, mmm so magic being spun by the sound of a voice whose rich warmth was spreading on down Have you ever experienced INSTANEOUS CONNECTION? To the point where your thoughts moved in mmmm... Just one direction? People sometimes ask, "Please...just a kiss!" Funny how you find yourself WISHING THE SAME WISH Your mind is amazing when you really LET IT GO As you FIND YOURSELF PICTURING mmm..you know? As the warmth of that voice takes on a glow

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Re: sex magnet poem / 127

Spreading and pulsing where you want it to go I will tell you all you desire... ME...I know. You step out of what was Invited, slipped inside Feels like warm rain Between your sighs And it’s not important that you find every inhibition is left far behind As you recall how it feels To be SO IN LOVE And you SEE THAT IMAGE of us (point to it) Up above You see at last who you’ve finally found what you’ve looked for and longed for has finally COME round This poem got me laid last weekend.

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Re: Who Jimmy The Hun Reminds me of..... / 128

R e : Wh o J im m y T h e H u n R e m in d s m e o f..... /128

================================================================ fastseduction.com database fetch, author: Mystery (128) -> view this article on fastseduction.com (for select & copy) ================================================================ author: "Mystery" date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 04:00:00 GMT newsgroup: alt.seduction.fast subject: Re: Who Jimmy The Hun Reminds me of..... Ive seen him in real life. Thats him in a nutshell. Haa, thats so funny. Jimmy, you’ve got to agree, you DO look like that character, eh? Haa thats so true. I love that.

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Re: Why Mystery Is Not Wise / 129

R e : Wh y M ys te r y Is N o t Wis e / 129

================================================================ fastseduction.com database fetch, author: Mystery (129) -> view this article on fastseduction.com (for select & copy) ================================================================ author: "Mystery" date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 04:00:00 GMT newsgroup: alt.seduction.fast subject: Re: Why Mystery Is Not Wise There are 100s of millions of people in North America. How many guys are like us? Let’s be grossly pessimistic. Let’s say 1 million guys know this stuff. I mean, know it enough to DO it. Or know this enough to KNOW when someone else is USING it. I rather like these ODDS. You know what? There are magicians who still perform linking rings. Why? Because the masses STILL dont know how it works ... dispite the secrets revealed shows. Sex is SEX. And if using a methodology instead of a pick-up line to get girls gives you better results, use it. People remember LINES, not complete METHODS. Disregard the previous post.

Its errant.

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my compliment to a gorgeous girl - gets me laid / 130

m y co m p lim e n t to a g o rg e o u s g irl - g e ts m e laid /130

================================================================ fastseduction.com database fetch, author: Mystery (130) -> view this article on fastseduction.com (for select & copy) ================================================================ author: "Mystery" date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 04:00:00 GMT newsgroup: alt.seduction.fast subject: my compliment to a gorgeous girl - gets me laid Compliments: never give a direct anatomical compliment that you believe has been said to that person before. Eg: if the girl is obviously beautiful, do not say "You’re so beautiful." Instead, say "You have such an expressive personality .. that’s a valuable thing in the entertainment industry. There are a million women who are beautiful, christ, I just came back from Florida, but how many do you think have an outgoing personality like yourself? I’m telling you, that’s a very attractive quality and a valuable asset."

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Jimmy is Gone / Mystery talks about more bits and pieces / 131

J im m y is Go n e / M ys te r y stalk ab o u t m o r e b its an d p ie ce s / 131

================================================================ fastseduction.com database fetch, author: Mystery (131) -> view this article on fastseduction.com (for select & copy) ================================================================ author: "Mystery" date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 04:00:00 GMT newsgroup: alt.seduction.fast subject: Jimmy is Gone / Mystery talks about more bits and pieces Its like JIMMY calling science a religion. Its merely an irrational ignorant conclusion. But then, so is JIMMY. Honest guys, just drop already. It bores me to waste time reading your posts about him and said. Its like talking to a frog. The frog doesnt understand you. makes noise. KILL FILE him and we can safely move onto the things I talk about.

it what he it just want to

Like this: Intro Establish eye contact. Say hi ... make it sound sincere. Don’t make it seem like you are trying to pick them up. "Hi there!" is wrong. They will in fact question in their minds why you are talking to them ... you may later on tell them Obstacles If other people are present, you must get them to like you first before you may show your intentions to the one you want. If one is her brother, he must like you enough to not become an obstacle. asshole, win him over first.

If he thinks you’re an

Close - give something personal - a necklace or bracelet. Don’t use pick-up lines. Don’t use anything obvious to your intentions. Don’t buy a girl a beer. Don’t buy a girl a flower. In fact, don’t think about picking her up; rather think about attracting her. What attracts a person to another? The person is interesting. There are 2 types of interesting people: good interesting and bad interesting. If you meet a girl and start giving knock knock jokes, that would seem interesting but in a ... "this guy is fun, but lame" way. Be entertaining - that is interesting. People want to hang with others because that person feels good around you. The second day Most people believe that calling a girl the next day is too needy. I don’t think so. Never ask them out on a date though. Movies and the like are out. Videos are too soon.

The more pretty the girl, the more she has been hit on. The more likely she is already taken and is only flirting. They can knock you down more quickly because they’ve had practice. However, the more practice you get at talking

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to pretty girls, the easier it will be to NEG HIT them. by 10s!

NEG HITS are LOVED

In each case of my getting laid, I first intro’d, then entertained with out obviously showing my intentions to seduce. I merely talked. You have to go through this too. So perfect the INTRO first. Do it withOUT looking like you are hittin gon them. START there! a woman will assume you want to have sex - you must confuse them into thinking that you actually don’t care about that. That is in fact a difficult thing to do. a woman must be reached at an intellectual level first and foremost. I have a boyfriend if you think your boyfriend would feel threatened by your meeting new people maybe we shouldn’t bother getting to know eachother. good luck in your relationship The close only close when they are attracted to you. do not close until you have a pretty good certainty that they are (see body language). once you know they are attracted, you MUST close or lose! · this was good · a · · · · · · · ·

so when are we going to get together again? I’m going to be performing at club on the weekend, are you free on fri or sat? esp joke give necklace i want to see you again you want to see me again lets get together again i like you what’s your #? (Have pencil ready) i want your #

document my pick-ups - borrow ricks tape recorder Scripts: may i call you sally? you can call me mr. poo-pee pants. - great is the girl is a 10! if i follow you home, will you keep me? so how do you like me so far? the voices in my head told me to come talk to you. would you like to kiss me or should i apologize? hello suzy, your mommy couldnt make it this afternoon.

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she asked me to


pick you up and take you home. some candy?


my thats a pretty dress.

would you like

Ive never driven a cadillac ... whats your name? - too sexual for an opening you have an interesting figure. - good if the babe is a 10! shh! people can see us! you drank too much last night didnt you? waiting for the subway - dont fall onto the tracks - youll make me late for work

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ORIGINAL INTROs and OPENERs / 132

O R IGIN AL IN T R O s an d O P EN ER s / 132

================================================================ fastseduction.com database fetch, author: Mystery (132) -> view this article on fastseduction.com (for select & copy) ================================================================ author: "Mystery" date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 04:00:00 GMT newsgroup: alt.seduction.fast subject: ORIGINAL INTROs and OPENERs place ONE NEW and srcinal OPENING script here in this thread. something you have used to your success in the past?

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What is


Friends and Lovers / 133

Frie n d s an d Lo ve r s / 133

================================================================ fastseduction.com database fetch, author: Mystery (133) -> view this article on fastseduction.com (for select & copy) ================================================================ author: "Mystery" date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 04:00:00 GMT newsgroup: alt.seduction.fast subject: Friends and Lovers When I meet up with a friend I know well, I am not nervous. Girl or guy, they are my buddy or friend and I feel at ease. Think about how you feel and how you act. Ever leave one friend and goto another and you still feel at ease? You just start talking about stuff, "Hey whats up? I just got back from the gym ... get this, there was this guy there who had no freaking neck! You should have seen how he .... " and off Im yakking. Its no big deal. Well, I noticed that when I had 3 girlfriends (yes I cheated - sue me) I would yak with one then leave and meet another and then later goto the other. It was just matter of fact and I treated them all the same. In fact, sometimes it would get confusing because I would hear a story about a friend from one and later recall that the story came from the wrong girlfriend. Oops, shit happens. Well, thing is, I would treat the girls like they were the SAME girl. Just different face. "I" was still the same. Over time I noticed that when I treated strangers this way and just treated them like I knew them all my life and didnt hit on them or have any visible motives, I would connect more quickly. So, suggestion:

walk up to strangers and behave in your mind as IF you know

them. Just start talking to stangers abou twhats on your mind. and it really helps.

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I do this




================================================================ fastseduction.com database fetch, author: Mystery (134) -> view this article on fastseduction.com (for select & copy) ================================================================ author: "Mystery" date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 04:00:00 GMT newsgroup: alt.seduction.fast subject: Re: Do I have to be a jerk to use SS? >Like I said, I have a hard time even imagining pulling this off. Maybe if some night I go to a club far from my home or office, where I won’t see anyone I expect ever to see again, I might be able to get up the courage to try it. Is there a more subtle version than the one described in the book? I can’t imagine saying, "as the warmth and the wetness and the deep rich pounding of her most burning female place .... the pounding burning place .... that longed to be filled, ached to be filled .... filled with his throbbing rock-hard manness" with a straight face. (Does it work if I treat it as a joke?) There is a time and place for everything. The time is when the woman is getting into a connecting state and the place is when you are looking into eachothers eyes and you are whispering into her ear allowing her imagination to roam. I can see myself using the emotion of passion to playfully arouse her. Not in the first 30 seconds but playfully in the sly look. Its playing. Its fun. Dont treat it as a joke but rather as a playful fun thing. Also, dont treat it like a serious non smiling seduction. Its fun to play this role. Show that you are enjoying this role. She will too. You have to see someone in action. This entire seduction thing is for only those willing to get attention and be fun and bold. Here you are already showing MOUNDS of insecurity. "What if I look like a fool?" Blah blah, a ladies-man would NEVER care about that.

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================================================================ fastseduction.com database fetch, author: Mystery (135) -> view this article on fastseduction.com (for select & copy) ================================================================ author: "Mystery" date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 04:00:00 GMT newsgroup: alt.seduction.fast subject: Re: Do I have to be a jerk to use SS? >For example, there was the time in college when I asked out my resident advisor. She told me there was a policy against RAs dating residents of their own houses, and I believed her. By the end of the year, she was dating another resident of the same house. Haha. Whatever you are currently doing is WRONG. You need an internal overhaul. I suggest the NEWBIE MISSION to learn abou twhat you are misisng. Itll be scary ... and it works. I have no sympathy for those who don’t try even though they KNOW what they are currently doing doesnt work. >There were several who, when asked out by me, told me of boyfriends they had "back home," despite the fact that they never talked about these boyfriends otherwise, and had no pictures of them. Sometimes these girls would be dating other local men shortly after turning me down. Haha. Lamed it out eh? Please remember the the responsibility for it not working resides solely in YOU. It is YOU who fucked up royally. And you wanna know who didnt fuck it up? The next guy who got her. Haha. No sympathy for the man who first does this and then years later STILL excuses himself. >There was the one who explained that she couldn’t go out with me because her calendar was so full (with school, work, and extracurricular activities) that she simply couldn’t find the time. (This one is actually pretty close to an honest answer-- I have no doubt that, at any given time, she had the option of some activity that was more appealing to her than a date with me.) Thats like a girl saying, she doesnt have time to sleep or eat or brush her hair or put on her make-up. Sex is something a woman will make time for if she wants it. You didnt appeal to her. I bet you did what every guy does, you HIT on her. You asked YES NO questions and she answered ... the easy way. NO. >Most of them were quite apologetic, and told me that I was a very nice guy, but... HAHAHAHAAAAHAAAAAA ... you crack me up. Its so weird how Im not some great stud but at least Im not in your shoes. Its a brain thing - not a body thing. Boy have I come far. Girls are not a PROBLEM for me. I worked

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hard, failed alot, and got good. 50 girls a week I approach on good weeks. 50!!!!! Serious. Thats very realistic you know. One guy has girls, one doesnt. Im the guy who has them. I could be you. That would suck. Its odd how you just cant be me. I dont mean ME, but you cant just get the knowledge in my head. I swear, if I was in your body right now, in your life, I would be getting laid by 8s 9s and 10s within the month. I could PROMISE you that I would have 3 girls within one month. Thats easy to do. All you have to do is understand the relative FREQUENCY that is to be considered normal. It makes me feel good. Thing is, I want some REAL player guy to humble ME! That way I can KNOW that Im doing stuff wrong and have a chance to improv. Things is, Im the best out there and Im a shmuck still. Where are the REAL PROs? I would LOVE to see ROSS work a room. I would just sit back an observe silently. I need to see how people work.

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Re: Mystery Proven A LIAR / 136

R e :M ys te ryP r o ve nALIAR /136

================================================================ fastseduction.com database fetch, author: Mystery (136) -> view this article on fastseduction.com (for select & copy) ================================================================ author: "Mystery" date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 04:00:00 GMT newsgroup: alt.seduction.fast subject: Re: Mystery Proven A LIAR please kindly retreive my posts and repost them. I’m a skeptic (do I need a license?) I’m a performing artist I’m an illusionist I’m a mentalist I’m a humanist and I’m a scientist. I’m also an evolutionist (or Darwinist for you older folk) I may even be considered a satanist I’m a pick-up artist I’m an author I’m a womanizer I’m polyamorous I’m polygamist I’m heterosexual I’m I’m I’m ... I perform in my own 45 minute lecture about rational beliefs. I am a scientist and my background is in Cosmology. I discuss interesting ideas in my lecture that few people think about. I entertain and educate. Thats me. As I adhere to scientific methodology, I am therefore a scientist - as apposed to a man who adheres to meta-physics. Blah blah, enough blab about shit or Ill Kill File you (nothing personal you just bore me entirely. You havent been posting anything that will increase my getting a girl anyway. When are you going to drop your so called SYSTEM of trying to get girls by telling them their ex boyfriends were assholes (putting them in a bad mood) and then consoling them? I admit there is a small percentage of women who will accept that sort of attention, but the girls who are 10s wouldn’t lower themselves to feeling badly about exs. They get quality men and they have enough esteem to know that if he doesnt want her, she will just find better. 10s are a differnt breed. They are brought up knowing they are special. dont rebound like 7s do.

Everyone treats them special.

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10s




================================================================ fastseduction.com database fetch, author: Mystery (137) -> view this article on fastseduction.com (for select & copy) ================================================================ author: "Mystery" date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 04:00:00 GMT newsgroup: alt.seduction.fast subject: Re: Mystery Proven A LIAR ><----And that’s another point: many of the skills he has developed are skills that babes value. It shows that if you make yourself appealing to women and don’t waste time in pursuit that you’ll go far, but I wonder how relevant this is. One thing I can say is that the "negative hit" concept is going to die a quick death once the women’s magazines get a hold of it. I doubt it. The NEG HIT is about showing a girl that you do not appreciate being stepped on. Thats it. Its not about calling a girl an asshole. Its abou tnot allowing her to treat YOU like one.

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================================================================ fastseduction.com database fetch, author: Mystery (138) -> view this article on fastseduction.com (for select & copy) ================================================================ author: "Mystery" date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 04:00:00 GMT newsgroup: alt.seduction.fast subject: Re: Mystery Proven A LIAR >I suspect there will come a time when women just use DejaNews to run lines used on them to see if people got them out here. Lines?

The Art of Attraction is about MORE than lines.

Its a methodology.

Sorry buddy, you are Kill Filed. You wasted too much of my time. My job is not to discuss ethics here. I fuck who I wanna fuck. I enjoy MANY women. And I get them. And all I have to do to get them is be playful, fun, have a good smile, make them laugh, allow them to feel connected to me, dont let them shit on me and then we get to mutually pleasure eachother. The entire PROCESS is fun. The catch is great fun. If it wasnt I would just have one girl and marry her (marriage is a religious thing and not natural though bad example) and fuck her only. Thing is, I want TWO women. And then Ill have a nice home with 2 girls. Til I find that, its play time for Mystery Ok, you are FILTERED OUT - nothing personal.

Dont bother replying.

Im a liar and an asshole.

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Re: Joly Green Giant?? More like an Ugly Mofo?? / 139

R e : J o ly Gre e n Gian t?? M o r e like an U g ly M o fo ?? / 139

================================================================ fastseduction.com database fetch, author: Mystery (139) -> view this article on fastseduction.com (for select & copy) ================================================================ author: "Mystery" date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 04:00:00 GMT newsgroup: alt.seduction.fast subject: Re: Joly Green Giant?? More like an Ugly Mofo?? I agree - unfortunately, neither did this particular post. Simply FILTER him out and the issue is done - you wont reform him. Talking about him bores us all. He loses - KILL FILE him already. And lets get back to biz.

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Re: Me---A Pickup Artist( almost) / 140

R e :M e - - - AP icku pAr tis t(alm o s t)/ 140

================================================================ fastseduction.com database fetch, author: Mystery (140) -> view this article on fastseduction.com (for select & copy) ================================================================ author: "Mystery" date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 04:00:00 GMT newsgroup: alt.seduction.fast subject: Re: Me---A Pickup Artist( almost) I swear to you as I was reading this I thought that maybe somebody took one of my posts and just changed it around a bit. You are TRULY a pick-up artist. How do I know? Because you say you are a student to this. Im in the same boat. I wish to get better, increase my odds. The hardest part I find so far for me is literally FINDING the girls. Then I can approach nearly EVERY situation (although I would like more tools for entry) and make them become attracted to me. I have NOT yet internalized SS stuff and I feel this stuff will increase my probabilities. I LOVE women. I especially love the adventure and the companionship. I love being in a strage girls apartment as she bathes me. She takes care of me and I feel like a KING. And when I leave, I goto another girls place and get the same great treatment all over again. Mmmmm, I love back scratchings. And blow jobs in the tub. Its so clean and the girls smell so good. You could feel lonely and you decide to go out and within 2 hours, your live CHANGES. You meet a girl and she is attracted to you. And she’s hot. And you are at her house listening to new music and eating new foods and exploring a new life. AWESOME adventures. They have issues you can listen to and learn from. Its a great big soap opera and you are the star. We could learn from eachother.

Im 26.

HOw old R U?

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Re: ORIGINAL INTROs and OPENERs / 141

R e : O R IGIN AL IN T R O s an d O P EN ER s / 141

================================================================ fastseduction.com database fetch, author: Mystery (141) -> view this article on fastseduction.com (for select & copy) ================================================================ author: "Mystery" date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 04:00:00 GMT newsgroup: alt.seduction.fast subject: Re: ORIGINAL INTROs and OPENERs BANG!

fucking good.

Dude man.

Nice.

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Re: ORIGINAL INTROs and OPENERs / 142

R e : O R IGIN AL IN T R O s an d O P EN ER s / 142

================================================================ fastseduction.com database fetch, author: Mystery (142) -> view this article on fastseduction.com (for select & copy) ================================================================ author: "Mystery" date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 04:00:00 GMT newsgroup: alt.seduction.fast subject: Re: ORIGINAL INTROs and OPENERs not corny at all. Very playful actually and not a HIT so thats a good thing. I like it.

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Re: Question for Mystery: Leaving Her / 143

R e :Q u e s tio nfo rM ys te ry:Le avin gH e r / 143

================================================================ fastseduction.com database fetch, author: Mystery (143) -> view this article on fastseduction.com (for select & copy) ================================================================ author: "Mystery" date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 04:00:00 GMT newsgroup: alt.seduction.fast subject: Re: Question for Mystery: Leaving Her If you wish them to leave you, thats not hard. Just tell them you are interested in seeing other girls and you plan to. Thats that. If she stays (which has happened before) than you get to have your cake and eat it too. Otherwise she leaves as a friend. If she wishes to dump you first for whatever reason, let her. Relationships are not supposed to be permanent (contrary to popular western religious myth - as in marriage myth). If she cheats on you, conceide defeat and move on before it gets to you. Have self-respect. Or try this: meet the guy. Become his good friend. Then find out his health issues and share her with him. (Not at the same time unless you are into that). In return, you have the right to go with other girls if she is seeing this guy. Hey, he’s your buddy anyway. Its all good right? The one on one fantasy is just that ... an unrealistic fantasy - it constricts our natural polygamist tendencies. The only responsibility to deal with is health issues. Research the partners and its all good then. If my girl wanted to have another boyfriend on the side, who am I to say she can’t. If I care about her, I would want her to live her life on HER terms. As I do mine.

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================================================================ fastseduction.com database fetch, author: Mystery (144) -> view this article on fastseduction.com (for select & copy) ================================================================ author: "Mystery" date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 04:00:00 GMT newsgroup: alt.seduction.fast subject: Re: Why Mystery Is Not Wise Jolly man, drop the wasted energy already. FILTER HIM and lets get your brain working on the more important ideas here ok? FOCUS is a needed thing in picking up girls.

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Re: Who Jimmy The Hun Reminds me of..... / 145

R e : Wh o J im m y T h e H u n R e m in d s m e o f..... /145

================================================================ fastseduction.com database fetch, author: Mystery (145) -> view this article on fastseduction.com (for select & copy) ================================================================ author: "Mystery" date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 04:00:00 GMT newsgroup: alt.seduction.fast subject: Re: Who Jimmy The Hun Reminds me of..... I dont use NLP techniques (well not consciously) yet. I have learned stuff from Tony Robbins but not from ROSS yet. I agree with the Ross stuff though. It makes great sense but I still have to internalize it. I need to memorize some patterns I guess. Dont bother getting around the KILL FILE Jimmy. BYE

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Thats a lamo thing to do.




================================================================ fastseduction.com database fetch, author: Mystery (146) -> view this article on fastseduction.com (for select & copy) ================================================================ author: "Mystery" date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 04:00:00 GMT newsgroup: alt.seduction.fast subject: Re: Why Mystery Is Not Wise crash ... ok. so ... could you kindly begin a new thread that will somehow help us with new insights into getting women? thanks buddy

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Re: Question for Mystery: Leaving Her / 147

R e :Q u e s tio nfo rM ys te ry:Le avin gH e r / 147

================================================================ fastseduction.com database fetch, author: Mystery (147) -> view this article on fastseduction.com (for select & copy) ================================================================ author: "Mystery" date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 04:00:00 GMT newsgroup: alt.seduction.fast subject: Re: Question for Mystery: Leaving Her to be honest, dumping them never is a problem (I wish it was a problem.) I simply have more than one girlfriend. Thats it. See, I become friends with them all. Except for them knowing I see other girls, I dont lie to them. The only reason why I WOULD lie is so that they dont harp on me - I dont meran to hurt anyone. And so I keep from hurting them by not TELLING them. Simple and effective.

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Re: Question for Mystery / 148

R e :Q u e s tio nfo rM ys te ry/148

================================================================ fastseduction.com database fetch, author: Mystery (148) -> view this article on fastseduction.com (for select & copy) ================================================================ author: "Mystery" date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 04:00:00 GMT newsgroup: alt.seduction.fast subject: Re: Question for Mystery Well, it all depends who the girl is. If she is a mono-girl (most are monogamous minded) then I sinple dont tell her. This is her assumption and I let her think it. If I DO get caught CHEATING then her expecation is not met, not mine. I EXPECT humans to indulge in their sexuality. If the girl is repressed and thinks that monogamy is a natural behavior in humans, well, thats their ignorance, not mine. I HAVE however been more obvious about my sexual desire to bed 2 girls as a lifestyle thing and not merely a fantasy and Im surprised at how OPEN girls are to accepting you for who you are. When I meet a guy who says he’s gay, well good for him. Hes gay. I dont bother judging him and try to change him. I couldnt give a hairy shit what others do. So when a guy like me goes to a girl and says hes a polyamorist, they just say, OK. Its not like Im offending them, its just another guy out there with a different lifestyle. When they ask what that is, POLYAMORY is the lifestyle of being in LOVE with two women or more. Thats me. I LOVE women. And if this intrigues a girl, Im a happy man. If not, then they still chase me because Im an experienced lover.

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================================================================ fastseduction.com database fetch, author: Mystery (149) -> view this article on fastseduction.com (for select & copy) ================================================================ author: "Mystery" date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 04:00:00 GMT newsgroup: alt.seduction.fast subject: Re: NEWBIE MISSION results this may be good to practice going up to girls, but still, it will rarely allow you to smoothly transition the conversation from asking about directions to just enjoying the chat. In the elvis script, you can continue with some completely other chat thread. Also, its not asking directions. Girls KNOW that is a possible LINE. They are cautious and you havent disarmed them. The elvis thing does that ... DISARM the ’hes hitting on me’ emotion.

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Re: Me---A Pickup Artist( almost) / 150

R e :M e - - - AP icku pAr tis t(alm o s t)/ 150

================================================================ fastseduction.com database fetch, author: Mystery (150) -> view this article on fastseduction.com (for select & copy) ================================================================ author: "Mystery" date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 04:00:00 GMT newsgroup: alt.seduction.fast subject: Re: Me---A Pickup Artist( almost) I have FILTERED out JIMMY. If you would kindly do the same we can not have him instuding. kindly dont reply to his posts cause I have to read his irrational text through your guys. Dont try teaching the retarded child how to fly a plane. It not nessessary. FILTER HIM today ... right now. Hes no longer fun ... about 8 of us have already done so so when you talk about him, we are clueless about what you are saying about him ... besides, Id hate to have to FILTER out people who only talk about Jimmy.

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Re: STATISTICS of the HUNT / 50 . . . . . . Re: DESCRIBE your UNIFORM for GAMING / 51 . . Re: Mystery is a pediatrist / 52 . . . . . . . Re: Mystery is a pederast / 53 . . . . . . . MORE INTROs / 54 . . . . . . . . . Im not bragging to those who know this lifestyle to b... / 55 ONLINE seduction ADDENDUM / 56 . . . . . Re: Im not bragging to those who know this lifestyle ... / 57 Re: A new name / 58 . . . . . . . . . Re: The Gentlemen’s Forum / 59 . . . . . . Re: Shes HERE! / 60 . . . . . . . . . Re: ARE YOU FUCKING SERIOUS??? / 61 . . . Re: attn: mystery / 62 . . . . . . . . . Re: attn: mystery / 63 . . . . . . . . . Re: attn: mystery / 64 . . . . . . . . . The NET girl / 65 . . . . . . . . . . Re: attn: mystery / 66 . . . . . . . . . Re: Mystery is a pederast / 67 . . . . . . . Re: Mystery..I mean Erick you fuck nut. I thought I k... / 68 Re: Mystery..I mean Erick you fuck nut. I thought I k... / 69 Re: on ethics / 70 . . . . . . . . . . Re: on ethics / 71 . . . . . . . . . . Re: STATISTICS of the HUNT / 72 . . . . . . Re: The Gentlemen’s Forum / 73 . . . . . . Re: on ethics / 74 . . . . . . . . . . Re: The Gentlemen’s Forum / 75 . . . . . . Re: Mystery is a pederast / 76 . . . . . . . Re: A new name / 77 . . . . . . . . .

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Re: attn: mystery / 78 . . . . . . Re: Blow Job Pattern / 79 . . . . . Mystery’s FILM PREMIERE PARTY / 80 . Re: stimulators / 81 . . . . . . Can I Buy you a Drink? / 82 . . . . Re: Mystery: Meeting / 83 . . . . . Re: Here’s the Blow Job pattern... / 84 . . Re: Mystery: Meeting / 85 . . . . . PHONE # addendum / 86 . . . . . Re: The Gentlemen’s Forum / 87 . . . Re: A new name / 88 . . . . . . Re: A new name / 89 . . . . . . Re: A new name / 90 . . . . . . Re: Mystery is a pederast / 91 . . . . Re: Mystery’s FILM PREMIERE PARTY / 92 MISSION for NEWBIES / 93 . . . . Julian Writes and Mystery Responds / 94 .

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Mystery and Tal on Saturday Night / 95 . . . . Re: THE TRUTH ABOUT JIMMY THE HUN / 96 . . 3some ideas / 97 . . . . . . . . . . Re: Real world application of SS and NLP / 98 . . . THEMES / 99 . . . . . . . . . . . Re: THE TRUTH ABOUT JIMMY THE HUN / 100 . . Re: THEMES / 101 . . . . . . . . . Re: Help needed: how to approach women? / 102 . . Jimmy update / 103 . . . . . . . . . Re: A hello, and My past Friday night (3 strike outs) / 104

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Re: A hello, and My past Friday night (3 strike outs) / 105 . . Re: A hello, and My past Friday night (3 strike outs) / 106 . . Re: Julian Writes and Mystery Responds and sash takes... / 107 Re: THE TRUTH ABOUT JIMMY THE HUN / 108 . . . . Re: STATISTICS of the HUNT / 109 . . . . . . . Re: Where’s the FLAME WAR???? / 110 . . . . . . Re: THE TRUTH ABOUT JIMMY THE HUN / 111 . . . . Re: Do I have to be a jerk to use SS? / 112 . . . . . Re: Julian Writes and Mystery Responds and sash takes... / 113 Re: NEWBIE MISSION results / 114 . . . . . . . Re: STATISTICS of the HUNT / 115 . . . . . . . Re: THE BARNUM AND BAILEY OF SEDUCERS?? / 116 . . Re: A hello, and My past Friday night (3 strike outs) / 117 . . Re: A hello, and My past Friday night (3 strike outs) / 118 . . Re: Introductions / 119 . . . . . . . . . . Re: A hello, and My past Friday night (3 strike outs) / 120 . . Re: Hi again, and an ongoing encounter / 121 . . . . . Re: Joly Green Giant?? More like an Ugly Mofo?? / 122 . . Re: MY heuristic. How I, personally found the truth, ... / 123 . . Re: NEWBIE MISSION results / 124 . . . . . . . Re: NEWBIE MISSION results / 125 . . . . . . . Re: NEWBIES MISSION: results / 126 . . . . . . . Re: sex magnet poem / 127 . . . . . . . . . Re: Who Jimmy The Hun Reminds me of..... / 128 . . . . Re: Why Mystery Is Not Wise / 129 . . . . . . . my compliment to a gorgeous girl - gets me laid / 130 . . . Jimmy is Gone / Mystery talks about more bits and pieces / 131 ORIGINAL INTROs and OPENERs / 132 . . . . . .

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Friends and Lovers / 133 . . . . . . . . Re: Do I have to be a jerk to use SS? / 134 . . . Re: Do I have to be a jerk to use SS? / 135 . . . Re: Mystery Proven A LIAR / 136 . . . . . . Re: Mystery Proven A LIAR / 137 . . . . . . Re: Mystery Proven A LIAR / 138 . . . . . . Re: Joly Green Giant?? More like an Ugly Mofo?? / 139 Re: Me---A Pickup Artist( almost) / 140 . . . . . Re: ORIGINAL INTROs and OPENERs / 141 . . . Re: ORIGINAL INTROs and OPENERs / 142 . . . Re: Question for Mystery: Leaving Her / 143 . . . Re: Why Mystery Is Not Wise / 144 . . . . . Re: Who Jimmy The Hun Reminds me of..... / 145 . . Re: Why Mystery Is Not Wise / 146 . . . . . Re: Question for Mystery: Leaving Her / 147 . . . Re: Question for Mystery / 148 . . . . . . . Re: NEWBIE MISSION results / 149 . . . . .

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Re: Me---A Pickup Artist( almost) / 150 . . . . . . . DISCLAIMER .

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