Zero Limits Seminar 1 CD 1 of 6

Zero Limits Retreat: Audio 1 Jan. 19 – 21, 2007

Hosted by Dr. Joe Vitale & Dr. Ihaleakala Hew Len

Joe:

Good morning!

All:

Good morning!

Joe:

Welcome to the world’s first Zero first Zero Limits Seminar ! This is NOT Beyond NOT Beyond Manifestation. This is not The Manifestation Weekend. This is not a Ho’oponopono workshop. This is Zero Limits. It’s NEVER been done before. I have never co-led this with Dr. Hew Len before, so this is ALL NEW. I’ve got no notes. I’ve got no agenda, no handouts. I had talked to Dr. Hew Len yesterday saying, “What are we going to do this weekend?”

He said, “We’ll show up.”

Audience:

[Chuckling]

Joe:

I said, “Well, what are YOU going to do?”

He said that, “I promise you that I will be there and keep cleaning.”

www.mrfire.com

1

Copyright 2007 – Joe Vitale Reproduction Forbidden

I said, “But, are you going to TALK?”

Audience:

[Chuckling]

Joe:

He started laughing and he said, “I will just clean. I will just clean.”

So, I don’t know if I am going to be speaking all weekend [chuckling] or if HE is going to be speaking. We also have a SURPRISE speaker, who I have not heard before, who has written a book that I absolutely love, which is ABOUT Ho’oponopono and growing from the inside out. Most of you already know the story, but for those who don’t, I need to quickly tell you about it.

Before we go there...we found this in the breakfast room. Does anybody recognize this? Joyce. Alright, it’s either yours or you WANT it!

Audience:

[Chuckling]

Female:

Trust me, she ALMOST didn’t get it!

Joe:

OH! [Laughing] She almost didn’t get it.

www.mrfire.com

2


How many of you were in The Beyond Manifestation Weekend , the last one? How many were in the one before THAT? Yeah!! MOST of the people here were IN one of those weekends. I NEVER announced this particular workshop. I never PROMOTED this workshop. Had I promoted Zero Limits to my major list, we would have needed to find a stadium! So many people WANT TO KNOW what THE SECRET IS BEHIND The Secret . So many people want to know about Zero Limits. Limits. So many want to know about my forth coming book CALLED Zero CALLED Zero Limits. So many people want to know about the world’s most unusual therapist who is here today and this weekend.

So, first of all, the quick story is three years ago, Mark Ryan who is in the room some place, he is over there, “Hello, Mark, good morning.” ...told me about a therapist who healed an entire ward of mentally ill criminals without seeing any of them! Now, I think I am a pretty open minded guy, but when I heard that story I thought, “I LIKE you, Mark, but I think you swallowed a big one here. I think this is an urban legend! This doesn’t sound like the truth at all!” So, I didn’t talk about it. I didn’t investigate it. I let it go! I heard it AGAIN from Mark a year later.

He said, “Did you investigate that therapist who healed an entire ward of mentally ill criminals?”

I said, “No, but what do you know about it?”

www.mrfire.com

3


He said, “Well, he used something called Ho’oponopono and supposedly he worked at this hospital in Hawaii for the criminally insane and he NEVER saw clients, but he did something within himself that CHANGED those people as he was working on HIMSELF!”

Well, I was CURIOUS at this point. I started look ing for that therapist. I couldn’t easily FIND him! I KNOW how to do research online. I know how to Google and I know all of those secret back doors to find information, but I couldn’t find this therapist! So, I found that a little curious and a little frustrating, but I also was very persistent. Finally, I found HIM LISTED on an unusual website called www.BusinessByYou.com. I think that’s the website, www.BusinessByYou.com. There his face was! There was some information about him and it said that you can hire him by email for consultations. I thought, now, that’s a little weird ‘by email’ but I am going to hire him, because I want to find out what the story is!

There began my adventure! I DID do a session with him by email, which I virtually got NOTHING out of...

Audience:

www.mrfire.com

[Laughing]

4


Joe:

...which made me even more curious. Its like, “Is this how he dealt with the mentally ill people? I mean, this didn’t help me.”

So, I said, “Can I talk to you on the phone?”

I got him on the phone and he spent an HOUR talking to me. Now, keep in mind, he didn’t know who I was at ALL and for him to give that hour was VERY GENEROUS. He didn’t charge me for it. He didn’t question me about it. He just answered all of my questions.

I wanted to know, “What’s the story about the mental hospital?”

He said, “Yes, he had worked there.”

I said, “You never saw patients?”

He said, “Well, I saw them in passing, but I never saw them professionally, not therapeutically.”

I said, “Well, what were you DOING that somehow caused them to CHANGE?”

He said, “I just kept cleaning.”

www.mrfire.com

5


“Were you using Ivory soap? What were you doing?”

Audience:

[Chuckling]

Joe:

“What do you mean you just kept cleaning? Are you cleaning the bathrooms, the walls, what did you mean?”

He said, “I just kept cleaning myself.”

“Well, what does THAT mean?”

He said, “I just kept working on ME. I just kept saying, ‘I love you. I am sorry. Please forgive me. Thank you.’”

I thought, “How did THAT do anything?” I was just INCREDIBLY CONFUSED and INCREDIBLY FASCINATED by this and I wanted to know MORE. He answered all of his questions and it just left me in a state of confusion, but SOMETHING was AWAKENING IN ME that was kn ocking at my inner door that said, “Go learn more!”

He had a workshop coming up. It was only a few weeks away and I asked him about it. I said, “Should I attend it?”

www.mrfire.com

6


He said, “I don’t know.”

I said, “How many people are going to come?”

He says, “I hope not too many.” He says, “I keep cleaning so only the right people come at the right time.”

Well, I found this MYSTICAL FELLOW rather INTERESTING [chuckling] and I notified Mark.

I said, “Mark, would you like to go to this workshop with me?” I said, “Since you were the guy who TOLD me about this fellow, I will PAY for you to attend it!”

Well, he EAGERLY agreed. He was JUST as curious about this man as I was. The man told me his name was Ihaleakala Hew Len.

Audience:

[Chuckling]

Joe:

So, I still can’t say it!

He said, “You can call me ‘E’ for short.”

www.mrfire.com

7


“The letter ‘E’?”

He said, “Yes, ‘E’ for short.”

So, I called him that for awhile until I started calling him “Dr. Len.” Everybody here probably refers to him as “Dr. Len.” His real NAME is Dr. Hew Len. So, if we want to do it right, we should be saying Dr. Hew Len or Dr. E, but I think he’ll answer to anything. [Chuckling]

Anyway, Mark and I did the workshop. We found it pretty fascinating. I did a series of workshops on Ho’oponopono. I also talked to Dr. Hew Len about me writing a book.

He said, “I’ll CLEAN on it.”

I thought, “Is that like the Japanese, when you ask them, ‘Do you want to do something together in business?’ They will say, ‘We’ll see,’ which means, ‘No!’” “We’ll see,” means, “No,” in the Japanese language.

So, he said, “I’ll clean on it.”

I thought, “Well, he’s just telling me, ‘No.’” I kept checking in.

www.mrfire.com

8


He kept saying, “I’ll clean on it. I’ll clean on it.” He KEPT CLEANING on it APPARENTLY, because at ONE point he said, “I want to write this book with you.” Well, more importantly, he wanted M E to write the book and that he would just REVIEW IT!

So, I brought him to Austin. Suzanne and I set up a dinner in February of a year ago. I thought five people might go to that dinner and learn about Dr. Hew Len and about Ho’oponopono and this process he uses to heal the criminally insane and to help everybody else by working on HIMSELF. We had ALMOST A HUNDRED people! We had to get a HOTEL ROOM! This was by word of mouth, much like the effect that’s going on HERE! I never promoted this, but look at all the people! There are more people that want to come and I couldn’t let them in the door! We’ve got standing room onl y. We’ve got fire codes to deal with at this point.

So, I started to have more adventures with Dr. Hew Len. I brought him to Wimberley where we spent some time, one-on-one, together just talking! I really felt like I was Grasshopper with the Satori Master as I walked up and down the streets of Wimberley. I would have these Satori experiences, because he is just being HIMSELF, but out of being himself I would go, “OH!!” I would have whacks across the head that would just WAKE ME UP!

www.mrfire.com

9


I got more and more excited. I started working on the book Zero Limits. I spent night and DAY on this book. I wanted this book to be earth shaking! I wanted this book to be the BEST thing that I have ever written. Cindy Cashman has already TOLD me, she’s read ALL of my stuff, “This IS THE BEST thing that you’ve ever written by far,” she says right here, EVER!

There are a handful of people who have read it. Dr. Mark Gitterle, who was also at that dinner in February, read the book and he said that, “This book is going to change an entire generation.”

Audience:

Wow!

Joe:

He said, “Historian’s will LOOK BACK at this book as a Watershed Moment in History.”

I’ve got...I am getting electrocuted here just standing here telling you what he said about my book!

Audience:

[Chuckling]

Joe:

I tell Dr. Hew Len all of this and he says, “Oh, just keep cleaning.”

Audience:

[Laughing]

www.mrfire.com

10


Joe:

Yesterday, I am in his room and we are talking for a little bit and he says, “You know, Joe, when your book comes out [now it’s my book…it’s not our book] when YOUR book comes out...the SHIT is going to HIT the FAN!”

Audience:

[Laughing]

Joe:

God, what a cheery guy! I mean....

Audience:

[Laughing]

Joe:

...because I am already PLANNING to SHAKE THE EARTH with the book PROMOTION wise! I am a marketing guy! I am an entrepreneur!! I am already lining up my FORCES, my artillery, my allies. I want the WORLD to know about this book, which is so incredibly ironic because the only person who really NEEDS to know about this book is ME!! As you’ll find out, if you don’t already know!

But, here I am…. wanting to shake the world with this entire book and I am getting promotional people lined up and marketing people lined up and I am not going to do it just by myself. I could make the book an Amazon Best Seller, but I WANT this to be a New York Times Best Seller.

www.mrfire.com

11


I have already been in contact with Oprah. I was supposed to be on The Oprah [Winfrey] Show YESTERDAY and it looks like I am not going AT ALL on that show about the movie The Secret , which most of you know I am in, but it will probably be because of Dr. Hew Len and Zero Limits. So, this book IS going to go out there in a big way and he says, “The shit’s going to hit the fan when it comes out.”

So, I am just sitting in his room and I am just thinking, “So what? I am READY for THIS!” I go back to my room and I get an email from one of my early readers of the book, who experienced some shit hitting the fan and took it out on ME!! I got ONE email. ONE email and I was DEVASTATED for the next HOUR!! I had to go lay down and go, “I love you. I am sorry. Please forgive me and thank you...”

Audience:

[Chuckling]

Joe:

...OVER AND OVER and over again!!! This is kind of a HINT at how this new method works. Because, where I WANT TO GO or I think where we ALL want to go is at this place called Zero Limits, which the code word might be “White Board,” because it’s the white board before we write anything on it. As soon as you asked the question or I asked the question, “what IS Zero Limits?” we’ve written something on the white board. As soon as we ask something like, “How do we get to Zero Limits?” we just wrote something on

www.mrfire.com

12


the white board and that’s NOT Zero Limits!!! That’s something ON TOP of Zero Limits. So, in the past, I might have taken that email that came to me, which was like a BOMBSHELL to me at that time and I am thinking, “Oh, I have to go be SOCIAL in a little bit. I am going to a DINNER. I have to SMILE and I just got a HAND GRANADE thrown to me!” I see HIM right after it.

He says, “That was Level One, Joe. They’ll still go to Level Six.”

I’m like, “I’m not going to hang around this man any more! He doesn’t have any GOOD news!”

Audience:

[Chuckling]

Joe:

Again, I am saying it jokingly, because ALL OF THIS that comes up is for us to cleanse!!

In the past when I got an email like that, what I WOULD have done is written back to the person and trying to have logically explained things or I might have gone to therapy and had all of this stuff worked out within myself so I am diffusing buttons, BUT INSTEAD what I am LOOKING AT is, ‘I am 100% responsible for everything that is in my life! That person/that email is in my life! I have to be 100% responsible for THAT...not just the experience of

www.mrfire.com

13


what was going on inside of ME, but that person or what I perceive their experience as going on inside of them is a SHARED MEMORY. For me to get back to the white board, to get back to Zero State, I have to CLEAN THAT and as I clean that, I not only clean it in ME, I clean it in THAT person and I clean it in the people that it’s SHARED WITH! This is the NEW DIRECTION that we are going with, with Zero Limits.

So, by my spending that hour laying on the bed saying, “I love you. I am sorry. Please forgive me. Thank you,” I got up feeling MUCH better. I was much more relieved. I was still shaken, obviously, openly I was, admittedly, but I felt LOTS BETTER and I had another email come from that same person much more relaxed, much more loving and open. So, there were some things happening. There was a ripple effect taking place.

So, what’s happening this weekend is [chuckling] I don’t really know. [Laughing]

Audience:

[Laughing]

Joe:

Okay, the email last night, that’s all part of this weekend! You know, but I didn’t set that up, not consciously anyway, maybe in some unconscious way, some Divinely planned way it’s been set up. I am here for the ride! I am here for the ride.

www.mrfire.com

14


So, anyway, I have FOUND that therapist. I have worked with that therapist. I have authored a book with that therapist. We are now...we have people talking about turning that book into a MOVIE, which excited me. I did a radio show called Spiritual Hollywood . They listened. They heard the story about the unusual therapist and they said, “That should be a movie!”

“Oh, wow, why didn’t I think of that?” That’s RIGHT!!

This is like, One Flew over the Cuckoo’s Nest , but a happier ending, you know...

Audience:

[Loud Laughing]

Joe:

...and a MUCH different way of doing THERAPY!! So, I am thinking, “Wow! This IS going to be BIG! This IS going to be huge! This is going to be the movie. It’s going to be the book. It’s going to be Oprah. It’s going to be all of these other things that are happening out there in the world, but again, it all comes down to ME.” [Pause] I hope that when you hear this, that it is relevant to YOU!

www.mrfire.com

15


But, everything that is going on HAS TO happen inside of me: all the cleansing, all the memories, anything in the way, all of the problems, anything that I perceive. It’s not in the other people. It’s in ME!

So, I AM cleansing! I am cleansing. I wear ALL kind of devices to remind me of that. This pin up here, you’ll see that Dr. Hew Len is wearing a pin on his hat. I put a second pin on MY hat! You know, do double duty here with the cleansing, to remind me to just keep doing, “I love you. I am sorry. Please forgive me. Thank you,” which will be the phrases we will be exploring here to find out WHY they work.

So, do you have any QUESTIONS about where we are going this weekend or what I have rambled on to say so far? [Pause] Not a one!!

Audience:

[Chuckling]

Joe:

Not a one! Not a comment, not a thought, not a...?

Male:

We are ready, let’s go!

Female:

We are along for the ride.

Joe:

“We are ready, let’s go,” get Joe off the stage? Is that it?

www.mrfire.com

16


Female:

We are along for the ride.

Joe:

You are along for the ride? That’s good. Well, how many here would like to hear Dr. Hew Len talk for a little bit...anybody?

Audience:

Yes!! [Loud Clapping]

Joe:

Well, it is MY GREAT PLEASURE to BRING UP Dr. Ihaleakala Hew Len!

Audience:

[Loud Clapping]

Dr. Hew Len:

Suzanne? Where is our friend, Suzanne?

Suzanne:

Right here.

Dr. Hew Len:

Suzanne, can we pass the erasers out...?

Suzanne:

Oh, sure! [Pause]

Dr. Hew Len:

...please? You and Bruce, thank you very much.

Bruce:

You are welcome.

www.mrfire.com

17


Dr. Hew Len:

While they are passing the erasers out, I want to make a couple of comments about the room. First of all, the room is VERY sacred. The room is VERY, VERY SACRED. So, you need to be aware of that. How you treat yourself is how you treat this room. If you are willing to accept the fact that this room is very sacred and whoever built it, built it with great sacredness, then the room ought to be acknowledged as so. But each chair that you are sitting in is VERY sacred. It isn’t just a chair, you didn’t just HAPPEN to sit in that chair, but each of the chairs that you are sitting in is very, very sacred.

So that means that how you treat the room and how you treat the chair is how you treat yourself. I WANT YOU to pay attention to that! So, this room is very, very sacred. The chair that you sit on is very, very sacred. The air that you breathe in in this room is very sacred. So, this room is a Temple and I would like...at least, I am going to treat it as a very sacred place. So the owner who put out his soul to build these things, we want to honor that person, because that person, whatever he was inspired, bu ilt this room and you are here, instead of sitting out there in the rain some place. So, I want to make that point VERY IMPORTANTLY, the ROOM is VERY SACRED!

So, I would appreciate it if you would NOT have any cell phone conversations in the room, because you will disturb the rhythm of the room. So, this room has an identity of its own and it can ONLY do what it was created to do

www.mrfire.com

18


without your disturbing it. So, cell phones, computers, all these things, will disturb the room and if you disturb the room, then we can’t get across the information. I just want to make the point, the chair you are sitting on, the table that you are...right here, the carpet that you are standing on, the foundation...that all of this is very sacred. Without this room, this could not take place.

So, I get to watch you, how you treat the room and I get to do my cleaning. Years ago I worked, again, at Hawaii State Hospital and one of the things that you noticed about the ward...that the peeling of the paint… the toilets would flush when nobody was on them, the lights would go off and on, you could hear crying in the room and so, no plants would grow. So this room...I had Joe bring in a plant. See? So, this plant represents the mineral, vegetable and animal kingdom. It’s going to WATCH all of us to see how sacred we are. It will know whether we are in fact sacred to ourselves, which is where we want to begin it in...the sacredness in how we treat ourselves.

So, I want to see if you have any questions about the sacredness of this room, the sacredness of the chair and the floor. Did you know, for example, that the person who sat on THIS chair had a financial problem? [Pause] Hello? The person who sat in THIS chair had a financial problem. So, when I LOOK to take 100% responsibility for whatever it is that THIS ROOM comprises of, I look at all of you. I asked Joe to give me a registration...names of ALL of you

www.mrfire.com

19


and then the room and then the address, because this room was once under a huge glacier! So, there are MEMORIES of that!! Th is room was part of the flooding. There are memories of that! So, but this chair right here, somebody sat on this chair that had financial problems, like you, which means you get up and you leave and you leave your crap. This is what we all do. We go from place to place, desecrating things!

So, I just want you to know that THIS ROOM has been set up in such a way that when you are in this room, the cleaning is taking place. Once you leave the room to go outside of the building, you are on your own...yeah, and ONLY because this room really wants to feel loved and cared for...which is something RARE in the annals of human existence. So please, no cell phone discussions in the room. It will disturb the room. Even the computers that you folks are using will disturb the room. The electric...the cameras in the room, will disturb the room. So, if you want to get the MOST out of it, you HAVE to be ZERO. You have to be SACRED! If you are not, you are not going to get anything out of this! All you are going to do is you are going to get reactions. You are going to have questions. You are going to bitch and moan. You are going to get annoyed and irritable. I’ve been through this. This is wh y it’s very DANGEROUS to give a course like this, because ALL of the stuff will come up...I mean, ANCIENT stuff will just pour out!!

www.mrfire.com

20


Now, as long as I am in the room, I KIND of feel like I’m safe, because the room will, in fact, CLEAR IT, but it won’t clear it if you are not sacred with it. So, I want to see if you have any questions about the sacredness of this room, the chairs, the carpet, and you. Good.

So, I am going to ask Suzanne...where IS my friend, Suzanne?

Okay, I am going to ask Suzanne if she will come and just stand right here for a moment, Suzanne, please. I would like for you to take your erasers out, okay, please.

Suzanne, when somebody erases on that side, I want you to erase it on this side, okay?

Suzanne:

What is it you want me to erase?

Dr. Hew Len:

I am going to ask somebody to come up and erase that.

Suzanne:

You want me to erase that?

Dr. Hew Len:

As soon as you erase it, you erase it. Okay?

Suzanne:

Okay.

www.mrfire.com

21


Dr. Hew Len:

Okay, everybody got an eraser? Sir, can you come up for a moment, please? I want you just to WATCH something. So, I am going to ASK him to come up, the person who OWNS the building [chuckling]. I am going to ask him if he would stand right HERE and then all I am going to do is to ask him to take his eraser and erase that ‘M’. Could you do that, please? [Pause]

So, what happens? It can’t be erased? Why might that be so?

Nerissa:

It’s the wrong kind of pen.

Dr. Hew Len:

I’m sorry?

Nerissa:

It’s the wrong kind of pen.

Dr. Hew Len:

THERE you go! So, it’s IMPORTANT for you to know that there are certain things that ONLY you can do and if you don’t do it, nobody else can be able to do it. Can I make that point? In other words, you have come into this lifetime to do those things that nobody else can do and if you CAN’T erase the stuff and take yourself back to zero, you are STUCK and you’ll never be able to achieve that. So, your ONLY enemies are WHO?

Audience:

www.mrfire.com

Yourselves.

22


Dr. Hew Len:

Yeah, not yourself! You are at Zero. Your only opponent is this! [tapping sounds]

Nerissa:

Memories?

Dr. Hew Len:

Memories! That’s the only opponent! When you don’t have these memories, you are back to zero; that’s who you are: pure, free, perfect, whole, complete. When you are a memory, it’s all bullshit...absolute bullshit. That’s NOT YOU!

So now, let’s say that my friend David was able to erase that? That gets erased, IMMEDIATELY everything else gets erased from the room, the carpet, the grass, the mineral/vegetable/animal kingdom all throughout the whole cosmos, everything gets erased if he is willing to be 100% responsible! By erasing it, he erases it for ALL and you won’t even know it! Why won’t you know it?

David:

You won’t remember it!

Dr. Hew Len:

Not only that, but because MOST of what you are aware of, you are not even CLOSE to what’s going on. For EVERY memory that you are conscious of,

www.mrfire.com

23


which is still bullshit stuff, there are MILLIONS going on that you are not aware of...MILLIONS...and you are thinking you know!! Bull!

I am going to make that point again. For EACH MEMORY that is in my friend David, he’s got millions happening below his awareness and that’s what’s driving him, not THAT! It’s the millions and millions. So, let’s say for every second there are fifteen memories that come up that David may be conscious of, there are 15 Million more that he is not and that’s jerking him around. [Pause] THAT’S what you’ve got to get at!

It’s like Psalms 19:12 or something like that where the Psalm is lamentive, there are these secret errors. I don’t know what they are, but YOU, YOU, but YOU and you can have it erased. But you have to know, it’s ONLY you. If you don’t erase it HERE...David...something comes up in his mind that even HE might not even be aware of, if he doesn’t get at it and erase it, we are ALL stuck with it. We are all stuck with it! There are certain things that ONLY you can clean. If you are waiting for David to clean, he won’t even be conscious of it! You are stuck now. We are ALL stuck!

So, does anybody know how a symphony orchestra gets tuned up? Who comes out and tunes them up?

Male:

www.mrfire.com

The director.

24


Female:

The concert master.

Dr. Hew Len:

The CONCERT MASTER! So, David is like a concert master. But if he is willing to erase, everybody...he goes into tune, this gets erased and everybody else goes into tune. He can tune everybody up and they may not be even conscious of it! [Pause]

So, you need to know that everything that you experience and MOST of it you are not aware of, it’s in YOU!! You can’t get outside of you. It’s not possible!

So, when you see out of memory, you see with...where’s my friend Ryan. Ryan, did you bring the dark glasses?

Ryan:

Uh, in my car.

Dr. Hew Len:

Can you get it?

Ryan:

Yeah.

Dr. Hew Len:

I want to make a point. So, I want to stop to see whether you have any questions. So, this is not DAVID, THIS is David. Zero is David. This is David’s opponent...not his son, not the building, not the weather, not anything

www.mrfire.com

25


else, this is his and this is yours, but when David is willing to let THAT go and return to zero, he’s HOME!! [Pause]That’s where everything is! Everything that is perfect and right for David will show up, but he’s got to get rid of that opponent! If you don’t get rid of that opponent, you haven’t got a chance! Not only that [chuckling] you make it HARD on everybody else and THEY are STUCK!

So, I am going to pause to see if you have ANY QUESTIONS about who you ARE [tapping sounds], who you are NOT [tapping sounds] and if you don’t get THAT [tapping sounds], we are all stuck with it. Our friend poor Suzanne is STUCK with it. This is our friend, Suzanne.

So, I want to pause to see if you have any questions...any comments. Now, she’s going to have a question. Okay, everybody see it? Raise your hands. She has a question. What does that mean? Pay attention!!

Female:

That she has a question.

Dr. Hew Len:

Pay attention! That means something is up! [Tapping sounds] YOU should be saying, “I love you. Thank you,” instead of being there going, “Uh-oh, I have a question, too!” Bullshit stuff...I tell you! But if s he has a question, that’s GREAT, because now if David was quick enough, he’d start doing his cleaning because he would be back from zero and he would take her back to

www.mrfire.com

26


zero and she’d get a PERFECT answer! She would get a perfect answer from whom?

Female:

Herself.

Dr. Hew Len:

Herself and WHO is herself?

Female:

Zero.

Dr. Hew Len:

Zero. What does Zero open the door to? GOD...Creation...The Infinite!

But you can’t DO it if your opponent is there! So, we want you to ask questions, but the rest of us ought to be doing cleaning, you know. Otherwise, you are going to piggyback on her question and then the whole room is going to be like a psychiatric hospital.

Audience:

[Laughing]

Dr. Hew Len:

It’s going crazy! REALLY!!

Audience:

[Chuckling]

Dr. Hew Len:

Thank you very much.

www.mrfire.com

27


David:

It’s PERFECT timing, sir.

Dr. Hew Len:

[Laughing]

David:

I needed directions.

Dr. Hew Len:

Yeah. [Chuckling] So, the ONLY point that I am going to make, hopefully, to get the idea across is that...this isn’t either me or David, but this is what I see out of it. I am seeing out of my shades, which means I see...crap! Sorry. But if I am willing to let go of the shade, which is just a memory...I’m seeing out of memory...I am back to zero. I can see what God sees, with ABSOLUTE CLARITY!!

That’s all I am going to talk about this weekend...how YOU, your only opponent, not your mama, not your papa, not anybody, not government, not Bush, not anybody, not Iraq. It’s YOU! If you are WILLING TO LET GO and BE HERE, you set everybody FREE and everybody will MOVE until another memory hits, BONK and then everybody’s stuck. But MOST of the time, we see out of THIS stuff. [Pause]

We spend 99% of our time looking at this and we say, “That’s for real!” This is our OPPONENT! You have no opponent, but THIS [tapping sounds] and

www.mrfire.com

28


this WANTS TO GO!!! It doesn’t WANT to be your opponent, but you put it there and yet you are responsible to take it off.

Ma’am, you had a question?

Female:

You know, allowing that space between when I wanted to ask the question until now, you’ve allowed me to answer my own question.

Dr. Hew Len:

Yes.

Female:

Very reasonably.

Dr. Hew Len:

Yeah, so you are going to put people like us therapists out of business. We have....

Audience:

[Laughing]

Dr. Hew Len:

We are going to have to go do something else...REALLY! REALLY!!! If you come from...thank you, Suzanne.

Suzanne:

You are welcome.

Dr. Hew Len:

We are going to have to figure out a way to erase that stuff, yeah?

www.mrfire.com

29


Female:

[Laughing]

Dr. Hew Len:

Thank you very much, David. [Pause]

Consumers Report put out a book called How You Can Clean Practically Anything , see?

Audience:

[Loud Laughing]

Dr. Hew Len:

I don’t know, they had 80 or 90 ways pending and so we are going to find out a way to clean this stuff, yeah?

Audience:

[Laughing]

Dr. Hew Len:

So, I don’t want to discourage questions, but any time you ask a question that means that we are ALL unclear...ALL OF US...and you waiting for an answer to come, like a discussion, you ain’t going to....discussions don’t erase. They won’t do it! The only thing that will erase is, “I love you!” Why will “I love you” erase? Some of you are doing it, why does it WORK?

Cindy:

www.mrfire.com

Because it takes you back to Zero?

30


Dr. Hew Len:

What? I know it. Okay, we’ve got that one. It takes us back to Zero. HOW does it take us back to Zero?

Female:

The same.

Dr. Hew Len:

You see, YOU NEED to KNOW that! You need to APPRECIATE HOW you MOVE the WHOLE COSMOS by simply saying, “I love you!” How you engage the ENTIRE COSMOS...the ENTIRE Cosmos by saying, “I love you,” but YOU need to be aware what’s involved so you can be AWED by this stuff as opposed to, “I love you. I love you.” You go, “Oh! Is there a faster way? I love you. I know there’s got to be a faster way. I love you, I love you, I love you, lalalala....”

Audience:

[Laughing]

Dr. Hew Len:

But when you say, “I love you,” you can not believe...I mean, you engaged the whole cosmos, anything that is out The Divinity will put in...will put it back into rhythm, the whole kit and caboodle. So, if The Divinity says, “I’m going to take THAT memory out, its going to take it out of EVERYTHING...all different galaxies, different dimensions, things you are not even aware of, will pull it off.”

www.mrfire.com

31


So, the IDEA is I want YOU to APPRECIATE the fact that as being a Divine Being at Zero you have enormous [pause] ENORMOUS power by saying, “I love you.” But you need to know how it works, so that you can appreciate it. So, I want to come back. Yes, ma’am. We get to clean now: “I love you. Thank you.” Don’t just sit there like a lump on a log.

Audience:

[Chuckling]

Dr. Hew Len:

Yeah. Yes, ma’am?

Jillian:

It connects me to The Divine.

Dr. Hew Len:

I am sorry?

Jillian:

It connects ME to the The Divine!

Dr. Hew Len:

Yes! So that’s ONE of the things that it’ll do. As soon as you say, “I love you,” INSTANTLY that connection is made to The Divinity. Instantly! Why would that be so, David? If that, when you say “I love you,” INSTANTLY that connection is made with The Divinity. Why would that be so?

David:

www.mrfire.com

Because that’s where we came from.

32


Dr. Hew Len:

Yes! Did you hear what David said?

Audience:

No.

Dr. Hew Len:

“That’s where we came from.” LOVE! Not ANY kind of love, not the kind of love, “Well, I love you if...”

Audience:

[Chuckling]

Dr. Hew Len:

Yeah. But, the love that will take you HOME again to a pure state!

That love is when you say, “I love you,” it has three elements in it; three important elements that you ought to be aware of and appreciate. The first element is. “I am sorry.” When you say, “I love you,” so sometimes when I have a back pain, if I am on an airplane, I simply say, “I LOVE YOU!” So, I am talking to The Divinity because I have something going on in me that creates this back pain. So, I am saying to The Divinity, “I love you!” So, now, that “I love you,” that is a PETITION I am saying to The Divinity, “I am sorry for whatever is going on in ME that is NOT me and I am asking for you to do whatever is right for me and for that.” Th at’s the FIRST thing. The first element is repentance, “I am sorry.” When you say, “I love you,” you are saying, “I am SORRY for whatever is going on in ME that’s not me.”

www.mrfire.com

33


The other thing that you are saying is, “Please forgive me.” So, when you say, “I love you,” you are talking about repentance AND forgiveness. Every time you say, “I love you,” every time you say, “I thank you,” you are talking about...you are saying to The Divinity, “I am sorry, Please forgive me,” and then the Divinity can ONLY do....

The next step is called Transmutation or Transformation and that is to ERASE these memories and take you back to Zero. YOU can not do it!!! The conscious mind, The Intellect, has NO ABILITY to come and erase that stuff to transform that back to Zero.

So, every time that you use this process and several processes are going to be given, it’s the process of, “I am sorry. Please forgive me,” and then allowing The Divinity to erase; so, ONLY Divinity can erase. So, I am going to pause to see if you have any unclarity that I have created on my part. [Pause]

Yes, ma’am? Now, we get to erase as she is talking now!

Female:

We are going through the process of saying this over and over and over again and we may hit or touch on the Zero...but how do we stay there CONSTANTLY? Does that make sense?

Dr. Hew Len:

www.mrfire.com

Yeah, OF COURSE!!! So, how would she stay there constantly?

34


Female:

Like, keep saying, “I love you. I am sorry. Please forgive me.”

Dr. Hew Len:

[Laughing] Yep! It’s tedious.

Female:

[Laughing]

All:

[Loud Laughing]

Dr. Hew Len:

It’s tedious and particularly it’s tedious because you are looking...you are looking for what? Results! You are saying to The Divinity, “I am looking for results, yeah,...”

Audience:

[Laughing]

Dr. Hew Len:

...as opposed to TRUSTING. So in this country, I am talking about the U.S., some of you are from other countries, but in THIS country what is our motto, David, in this...for this country?

David:

Trust the government.

Audience:

[Laughing]

www.mrfire.com

35


Dr. Hew Len:

What is our motto?

All:

“In God we trust.”

Dr. Hew Len:

“In God we trust.” HA!

Audience:

[Chuckling]

Dr. Hew Len:

What a bunch of bologna, you guys! “In God we trust.” [Raspberry] Yeah! So, in this great country, the motto is, “In God we trust.” So, when we do our cleaning, please know when you knock [knocking three times hard] the door is going to be open EVEN if you don’t see it below your consciousness.

IF YOU ASK, the DOOR WILL OPEN!! It will OPEN...as opposed to you going, “Did it open?” Oh, my God! You are only aware of one millionth stuff going on at once and you are trying to make a judgment? What a bunch of bologna!

Here’s who you are! Zero, created in EXACT LIKENESS of The Divine: PERFECT, no intentions, no problems, no desires, no nothing!!! No wishes, “I wish I had more money.” When you are at Zero, it’s all gone. You don’t have to do ANYTHING with that, but it takes...it’s TED IOUS WORK to go from here!!! Because, the enemies are MOUNTAINOUS

www.mrfire.com

36


[chuckling]...mountainous, as deep as the deep blue sea, the surging and the moving in your mind of this data, this information just moves like that.

So we...each of us have a particular VORTEX that we are CAUGHT in that WE have to be responsible for; but if we ALL WORK AS A FAMILY...because that’s who we are! You see, Zero means that we are all family, “E pluribus Unum.” “Out of many One.” So, Zero makes us FAMILY!! Can I say that again? Zero makes us FAMILY!!

At Zero, we don’t acknowledge anything that a religion, a race, a belief, there is NONE of that that you have to deal with. When you are at Zero, you are home free; free...like King said, “I am free at last.” But, we are talking about spiritually, we are free at last! [Pause] The only thing between you and freedom is your stuff!!

So, I am going to pause and see if you have any unclarity on my part. Yes?

Female:

You...I guess...my question to you is...the cleaning that you have done and you’ve been cleaning for a long time.

Dr. Hew Len:

Twenty-five years.

Female:

Long before ALL of us here.

www.mrfire.com

37


Dr. Hew Len:

Yeah.

Female:

And you are STILL cleaning.

Dr. Hew Len:

Yeah and I’ll go on until I take my last breath.

Female:

That’s the message, that we DON’T STOP cleaning.

Dr. Hew Len:

Yeah, you are right. It’s tedious!

Female:

When we think about being at Zero, I don’t see it ever HAPPENING then.

Dr. Hew Len:

Oh, it DOES happen. Watch this. You see? All of a sudden without your awareness and this is why you have to TRUST that The Divinity will do for you, if you are WILLING TO DO YOUR PART. So, all of a sudden OUT OF THE STORM comes this LITTLE LIGHT and goes [Whoa (musically sung)] and you go [Oh!] and you’ve got inspired. One little parting of the clouds...one little parting of the data; but we are thinking, “Come on, hurry up! Hurry up! I don’t see anything!” But it’s happening all of the time!

In other words, the Light is hitting you all of the time, but you are not even AWARE of it. How CAN you? My gosh...out of ONE...here is the level of

www.mrfire.com

38


consciousness. This is consciousness, this is subconsciousness. One MILLION below and you are making pronouncements on that? So, you should give up! You should say, “God, I don’t know” as opposed to most of us walking around saying, “I know.” Well, you don’t know…. you don’t know. I mean, you’ve got zillions. You’ve got mountainous...this is what the message of Jesus and Buddha and all of these; listen, it’s stacked against you! But you can move MOUNTAINS, if you are willing to be 100% responsible.

But I want you to be clear...this is the ONLY thing between you and you. That’s it...not your mama, not your papa, NOT ANYBODY! It’s in YOU!! I think it’s WONDERFUL!

Now, I don’t have to wait up on anybody...as oppos ed to, “What about you?”

The other person says, “Well, what about you?”

Then, you have psychologists making lots of money because it’s…. we are into blame. We make TONS of money. Lawyers make TONS of money and you know EVERYBODY is UNCLEAR? I don’t know...I’ve been doing this for years, I don’t know any psychologist that is clear...or any lawyer. Do you know any of them? [Pause]

www.mrfire.com

39


It’s GREAT! Then you should come home and take care of your OWN stuff, because nobody else is going to do it for YOU! Because the y DON’T KNOW what’s going on, so when I work, when people email me or in class like this and somebody will come and talk to me, I know that something is up and I start cleaning. This is why I’ll stick in this room most of the da y. I want to be in THIS room while this cleaning is going on.

But I want you to be clear. She’s asking a question [tapping], that’s where she’s coming from. We want to be here, so SHE is doing us a FAVOR! It’s an OPPORTUNITY to what? To let the mountain GO! So, any time anybody’s got any...you want to say, “WOW! What an opportunity for me to be 100% responsible.”

Female:

When you are cleaning and I am cleaning, are we cleaning each other? Are we cleaning the space around us?

Dr. Hew Len:

You have to ask the more important question: “Am I 100% responsible for what is going on in me?” As long as you are clean, there can be a storm around you, but you might be experiencing that little sunshine and everybody else can be going crazy.

Female:

www.mrfire.com

So it’s. “Focus on your OWN cleaning.”

40


Dr. Hew Len:

It’s ALWAYS been! Have you ever noticed that every time there is a problem that you are always there?

All:

[LOUD laughter!]

Female:

I think, that’s...that’s true!

Dr. Hew Len:

Well, it’s true for ME!

Female:

[Laughing] It’s true!

Dr. Hew Len:

And on that note, I would like to take a break, please. Can we just take a SHORT break? Let’s take a short break, otherwise what happens is a part of you will walk out the door and you might be there, but you are not home.

[Break]

Joe:

I was given this book, The Yale Book of Quotations. I thought I’d read all of them to you.

Audience:

www.mrfire.com

[Laughing]

41


Joe:

Actually, I was reading it to Dr. Hew Len at breakfast and I opened it up to a page and he said, “Mark that page and read T HAT one.”

It said, “We do not see things as they are, but as we are ourselves.” Henry Thomlinson, an English novelist said that. But, it doesn’t really matter who said it, does it?

I’ll open it up again. It’s book of The Yale Book of Quotations. I have no idea why I have opened it up to this, but I am just going to read it, I don’t know what it’s going to say, “That old lady, who on borrowing a dictionary from her municipal library, returned it with a comment ‘A very unu sual book indeed, but the stories are extremely short, aren’t they?’”

Audience:

[Laughing]

Joe:

So, rather than keep entertaining you with this, I will bring Dr. Hew Len back up.

Audience:

[Laughing and Clapping]

Dr. Hew Len:

Why don’t you...don’t you have any stories you want to tell them about...an experience that you’ve had...yeah, I am sure that you have a few stories about how it worked for you or the Earth really well.

www.mrfire.com

42


Joe:

Oh, okay. I am NOT going to bring him back up.

Audience:

[Laughing]

Joe:

He said, “Don’t I have a few stories about how this process has worked for me?” Some of you have HEARD these stories because you’ve heard me talk about them in Beyond Manifestatio… the first one AND in the second one. Does anybody remember any of my stories...to remind me?

All:

[Chuckling]

Joe:

Yes, Cindy. Yes.

Cindy:

Well, you shared a couple of GREAT stories how you were so careful about your eating and then you showed how Dr. Hew Len would go out walking and he’d go have a chilidog or something.

Joe:

Yes.

Cindy:

Then you’d ask him, “Are you going to eat a chili dog?”

www.mrfire.com

43


Joe:

Yeah, that story is actually now IN the book Zero Limits. It’s in a chapter called “Cigars, Hamburgers and Killing the Divine.”

Audience:

[Chuckling]

Joe:

Nerissa saw that chapter title and said, “That one...I want to read that one first.”

Audience:

[Chuckling]

Joe:

She liked that one...and, part of it WAS about smoking cigars. Cigar smoking has become an ALMOST daily ritual for me. It’s a time where I PURPOSELY SLOW down and I am relaxing as I have my smoke. Usually, it’s been outside, of course, the weather has changed, so it’s not been doing that and while I am doing it, I am just saying, “I love you. I am sorry. Please forgive me. Thank you.”

Now, when I FIRST started saying those phrases, they were just phrases. The y are just WORDS. One of the things that Dr. Hew Len had taught me when he first taught EVERYBODY in the seminar that Mark and I were at was the line that, “You don’t have to FEEL love. You don’t have to FEEL sorry. You just have to say the phrases.” I think it was a little SNEAKY on HIS PART, because what I found out was that AS you say them, you begin to FEEL them!

www.mrfire.com

44


So, I would say, “I love you. I am sorry. Please forgive me. Thank you,” just my mantra, just saying it because I trust him, because I have been trusting this process because it’s worked on LITTLE things before. Then I’d sit there and I’d be looking...and it’s interesting because we have all of these lights, because in some places when I was sitting outside I would see all of the STARS, which seem a lot like these lights. As I am looking up and I am saying, “I love you,” I started to think, “I really DO love you!”

Audience:

[Chuckling]

Joe:

As I would say, “I am sorry.” I would start to feel, “Oh, my God, I really AM sorry and please FORGIVE me and then, thank you.” What was going on, because I am getting electrocuted here because I am feeling all of the chills going up and down my spine and I am connected right now to The Divine, as I am saying this. What I was feeling is that...first of all, I DO LOVE YOU! O h, my God, I am ALIVE at a time of MAGIC AND MIRACLES and I am experiencing the most DIVINE breakthroughs, not just personally and professionally, but just the FACT that I am ALIVE BREATHING at this time in history. This is the time of magic and miracles. So, I am kind of saying, “I love you,” to The Divine. Its like, “I feel the love. I FEEL the LOVE!! It is love! I am feeling love. Love connected in me and love connected to It!”

www.mrfire.com

45


Then I would say, “Please forgive me,” and what am I asking forgiveness for? I am not asking for forgiveness from It from The Divine, from the Zero State. I am asking for forgiveness of MYSELF because I wasn’t REALIZING the LOVE! It’s like, ‘Oh, God! I didn’t KNOW that you were showering this LOVE on me! Please forgive me. I am SORRY! I am sorry because I wasn’t AWARE! I was asleep!” I STILL fall asleep...that’s why I have to have a cigar [chuckle] to go through this whole thing again, virtually every day, and then, “THANK YOU!” because of the experience of world… found GRATITUDE to be ALIVE, to be ONE with that State, to be able to have that report. I swear that cigar moment becomes a Satori experience for me!

To the best of my ability I am saying, “I love you. I am sorry. Please forgive me. Thank you,” ALL DAY LONG!!! Many of you have heard me say that before, right down to when I am saying it when I am in bed, going to sleep, so I am imagining that my mind is taking on that software programming and it’s saying it while I am sleeping! What I keep reminding myself is that ALL of the cleaning that has to be done is NOT ‘OUT THERE’...it’s not with any ONE person. If anybody is saying anything to me, like the email that came up, shared program, they’ve got the M. I’ve got the M. What I’ve got to do on my board over here is say, “I am sorry. Please forgive me. Thank you. I love you.” Now, as that dissolves, it seems to dissolve over THERE and not just OVER there, but if you happen to be sharing the program, the same thing happens.

www.mrfire.com

46


So, BECAUSE I keep doing this, I seem to be having a much more PEACEFUL, GRATEFUL LIFE! I still get stressed, but for the MOST part I am riding a wave of very BUSY prosperity doing things like flying to Miami, talking to people who want to have my own reality TV show and hearing from the Oprah people who want me to go on Oprah to talk about the movie The Secret . That’s interesting, too. Let’s talk about that for a real quick moment.

I get this call saying I am one of like six people that are being considered to be on The Oprah Show. There are twenty-four teachers in the movie The Secret . I am ONE of them, and they’ve honed it down to six or seven that they wanted to be on the show. So, they were going to do a pre-interview with ME. They wanted to do the airing I think it was yesterday. They wanted to record the show. It would have been yesterday, I would have been in Chicago. I went through the pre-interview and everything and part of my mind was thinking, “I am WAY PAST The Secret .” I LIKE the movie The Secret . I encourage EVERYBODY to see the movie The Secret , but when I did the Beyond Manifestation Weekend , I was telling everybody, “You can watch that movie, but I think that we are going PAST that!” When we come here to Zero Limits, I am thinking that we are going WAY PAST THAT, even DEEPER than that. So, I think that Oprah picked up on that [Chuckling], so I wasn’t invited to be on the show! I thought, “That’s GREAT, from a Divine standpoint I didn’t want to go SO CLOSE to this actual event taking place. All I could imagine

www.mrfire.com

47


was I’d be in Chicago, I’d be snowed in and I couldn’t come back and I wouldn’t be here for the event.” So, when I got the call saying that they are passing on you on The Oprah Show this time around, I was RELIEVED!

Then, I also thought, and then again, I am CLEANING the whole time that this is going on, “I am loving you. I am sorry.” I am doing ALL of the phrases, ALL of the time that this is going on, DOING MY BEST TO TRUST THE PROCESS. Trust is such an IMPORTANT word in ALL of this! So, while this is going on and I am still cleaning and everything, I realized that “I NOW KNOW the people who decide who goes on Oprah! I don’t WANT TO GO on, because of the movie The Secret. I want to go on, with HIM! (Joe is pointing over to Dr. Len).

Dr. Hew Len:

NO! [Laughing]

Audience:

[Loud Laughing]

Dr. Hew Len:

We want him to go ALONE! [Chuckling]

Audience:

[Loud Laughing]

Joe:

That’s what he said yesterday!

www.mrfire.com

48


Female:

I’m sorry.

Audience:

[Laughing]

Dr. Hew Len:

[Chuckling]

Joe:

All I thought was, “I’ll just CLEAN on that!”

Dr. Hew Len:

[Laughing]

Audience:

[Laughing and clapping]

Joe:

So, to give you any sort of story here, what I am doing on a moment-bymoment basis is CONSTANT CLEANING, which puts p uts me in the MOMENT in a state of GRATITUDE and a state of TRUST. As I keep telling myself and when I spoke to my mentors...I have a mentoring program at www.MiraclesCoaching.com and a couple of the coaches are here...I spoke to them one day and I was telling them that I really think that the secret to living a WONDERFUL, PROSPEROUS LIFE is to REALIZE REA LIZE that if you can BE RIGHT HERE IN THIS MOMENT, and I mean almost a lmost nobody IS, but if we could be right here in this moment with TOTAL GRATITUDE, we are OPEN for the inspiration he referred to EARLIER to SHINE IN. When that shines in,

www.mrfire.com

49


in that moment, we DO whatever that IS, and it takes care of the th e NEXT moment.

In the past, I always wanted to orchestrate everything, strategize everything, CONTROL everything, map out everything, so I KNEW what I was going to do this weekend, what I was going to do the following week, have my game plan, have my strategy. Now, I have found out that is one of the GREATEST LIMITATIONS I could ever think of!! I never PLANNED to be on Larry on Larry King . I never PLANNED to have Oprah call. I never planned for a lot of my books to work out. I never planned to hear about this therapist, to end up working with him, possibly being in a movie with him [chuckling].

Audience:

[Chuckling]

Joe:

He said Robert DeNiro should play his part in the movie.

Audience:

[Loud laughing] Whoo-Hoo!

Dr. Hew Len:

[Laughing]

Joe:

He’s saying get a good Italian man is what he thought he needed in there.

www.mrfire.com

50


I NEVER THOUGHT ANY of that! What I am finding out is that if I STAY in the moment, I keep CLEANING, the opportunities keep coming and what I do is just say, “Yes” to them, even when they are stretching my comfort zone, “Say ‘Yes’ to them!” Because when I am stretching my comfort zone, something else to CLEAN! It’s just saying that there is something else for me to clean! So, for me, in some s ome ways, I feel like I am reducing everything to such a kindergarten one message level. JUST CLEAN ALL THE TIME!!! You don’t have to do ALL of the other techniques. You don’t have to do all of the other methods. You MIGHT!! M IGHT!! You might WANT TO! It might come out of your MOMENT. It might come out of your Inspiration, but what I am finding out is that the ADVANCED METHOD seems to be the method that HE used ON HIMSELF to heal the entire ward of mentally ill criminals, which is going to be SUCH a GREAT MOVIE, after such a GREAT BOOK!

So, do you have any questions of me?

Female:

Joe, I have a question.

Joe:

Okay.

Female:

I heard you say to do that it will put us in the MOMENT, however, what happens to ME, I find myself saying it over and over and over again and then finding I am thinking about something else! So, I don’t understand the

www.mrfire.com

51


pendulumous effect. If I am thinking of something else and I am saying it over and over, it can’t really mean “I love you.”

Joe:

That’s what you want to CLEANSE on, so that you end up being back in the moment.

You see, one of the things that was going on, yesterday, when I told you I got the hand grenade by email that leveled me. I laid down for awhile and I am doing, “I love you. I am sorry. Please forgive me. Thank you,” over and over and over and I am SURE it was about an hour. I wasn’t keeping track of time, I was just DOING it! At some point, the thought came across my brain, it just kind of wandered in, “Isn’t there a faster way to do this? One an hour.”

Audience:

[Laughing]

Joe:

So, I thought isn’t there a SHORT CUT? You know, I got four phrases now, “Can I reduce it to ONE?” I mean, this is what’s going on in my head. So, I wander over later and I am visiting with Dr. Hew Len and I TOLD him all of this. I said, “NOW I am looking for the short cut. You gave me the four phrases. I want to know the ONE phrase or the one STATEMENT.” He laughed out loud because this is like a memory showing up. This is a question that’s taking me from the moment.

www.mrfire.com

52


He said, “Well, one that shows up is ‘tombstone.’”

Huh? Tombstone? Why did I like to be around this guy? I mean.... [Chuckle]

Audience:

[Laughing]

Joe:

Level ten shock waves coming my way, all the shit is going to hit the fan, now tombstone. What he meant by it was it’s an image! When you turn over any rock that’s been there for a long time, whether it’s a tombstone or a rock that you find out in the woods or something, what do you see on the other side?

Male:

Worms.

Joe:

Worms, darkness, dirt, stuff that needs cleaned.

So he said, “Just in your mind, flip over a tombstone. It will air it, like when you aerate the ground, the grass and so forth.” That’s another way that you can do some cleaning.

So, again though, it all comes back to NON-STOP CLEANING. EVEN when I have the thoughts, “How can I speed up the cleaning?” Where is that coming from? He referred to it earlier. My Western mind, the entrepreneurial spirit, wants RESULTS! If I am not getting results, I want to do something else. So,

www.mrfire.com

53


I am saying, “I love you.” I am still feeling it for a little while, the pain, so I’m thinking, “Where’s the next step? Where’s the next one?” Well, even my WONDERING IT is taking me from the moment!! There is another question. It seems like it’s over there. Who’s got the question? Yeah, okay.

Woman:

You talked about Dr. Hew Len. You talked about the shit hitting the fan when this comes out.

Joe:

Yep.

Woman:

You are basically...I’ve lived out in the woods...all analyzing, all judging, all diagnosing. I mean in psychotherapy.

Joe:

Yes!

Woman:

All stories.

Joe:

Yes.

Woman:

The long stories...

Joe:

Yes.

www.mrfire.com

54


Woman:

...over and over again. You are BASICALLY....

Joe:

Throwing it out the window!

Woman:

...throwing it out the window!

Joe:

Exactly!!

Woman:

The therapist is going to go, “OH!!”

Joe:

Yeah!! I think that’s what’s going to push buttons in a lot of therapists, but I wasn’t THINKING about that. I wasn’t PERCEIVING it as that. Th ey are going to look at it and go, “You are not going to NEED ME.” They are going to feel THREATENED.

Woman:

Oh, YEAH!!

Joe:

They are going to say.... In fact, he’s TOLD me. I said, “When people come to you on a therapeutic level, how do you work with them?”

One of the FIRST things he asked them is, “Tell me your story.” He doesn’t want to know the STORY because that’s the PROBLEM. The story is what they are going to say from the “M” level, that’s the tip of the iceberg. It’s just

www.mrfire.com

55


where you START. He wants to clean what’s UNDERNEATH it! But the story just gives them something to talk about, anchors them in that moment, while he can do the cleansing.

That’s why I even got this email yesterday was by a person who was threatened...threatened. I put them out of business and they don’t like that! Yeah.

Female:

So, Joe.

Joe:

Yes?

Female:

That’s true, and yet it’s not true if I understood what we are talking about here, if we are actually the opposite.

Joe:

Well, I am with YOU on THAT. But see, again...see, this is interesting because we can talk about those other therapists and we can talk ab out the shit hitting the fan, we can talk about reviewers and critics and all of that kind of stuff, what really matters?

Female:

Us.

Joe:

ME!!

www.mrfire.com

56


Female:

Right.

Joe:

Me! So, when all of this, if any of this shows up...you see, what I am trying to do when I say that is I am cleaning NOW. He’s already alerted me. I am cleaning NOW, so when the book comes out in JUNE, hopefully I’ve cleaned up a WHOLE lot of this. Whatever HITS, won’t be...

Female:

I don’t think so!

Joe:

Well, THANK you!!

Audience:

[Laughing]

Female:

Memory! Memory!

Joe:

Can I hear from somebody else?

Audience:

[Laughing]

Joe:

Can I get a second opinion?

www.mrfire.com

57


Female:

Memory! Well, coming from a therapist’s background, this is such a RELIEF for me!

Joe:

Ah!

Female:

The clients are always going to be there. They are not going to go away and it gives ME something to do in their presence.

Joe:

Yeah! This is a good point! You know what? I was talking to Dr. Hew Len about my Miracles Coaching program.

I said, “Well, I’ve got these people that are working with other people, what is the BEST way for them to talk to them? How do they interact with them?”

He says, “Just LOVE THEM.”

“What does that mean?”

He says, “Just love them!” He says, “What is it that EVERYBODY wants?”

Audience:

Love.

Joe:

We want love! We want recognition! We want to be acknowledged!

www.mrfire.com

58


So, if they ARE being loved, and I mean that you are saying it in your mind as you are in front of those people and you are saying, “I love you. I am sorry. Please forgive me. Thank you.” You are doing your CLEANSING for whatever shows up when they are talking to you, they will LIKE BEING AROUND YOU!” So, my GUESS is they will actually RETURN TO YOU for more of the good FEELING! This is my...That’s my own HUNCH! Yes?

Lady:

I’d like to share about that...

Joe:

Yes.

Lady:

...because I get to do that every day with your clients.

Joe:

She IS with the Miracles Coaching program.

Lady:

I have to tell you, my experience of LOVE and being with those people with EVERY phone call it’s just the MOST AMAZING GIFT to ME. I’m doing your...you know, doing the...

Joe:

www.mrfire.com

Cleansing?

59


Lady:

“I love you. I am sorry. Please forgive me. Thank you,” WHILE I am listening to that and THEY TOTALLY have the experience of being loved being on that call.

Joe:

Wow!

Lady:

Totally...because, they ALWAYS acknowledge it when we get off the phone, they tell me, “It’s such a difference to talk to you.” It’s SHOCKING to me, it’s such a surprise, but that’s what THEY experience when they are on the call.

Joe:

But, do they KNOW that you are doing that?

Lady:

No!

Joe:

So, they don’t have...

Lady:

Well, SOME of them...

Joe:

Yeah.

Lady:

But I don’t tell them that I AM doing that...we talk about the technique, what is possible and limiting beliefs.

www.mrfire.com

60


Joe:

You see, I LOVE this! I LOVE this! When I am talking to ANYBODY and I am not doing it therapeutic, but I am having conversations with people, inside my mind, I AM LISTENING TO THEM, but I am saying, “I love you. I am sorry. Please forgive me. Thank you.”

Lady:

Yeah!

Joe:

I am CLEANSING whatever comes up, ALL OF THE TIME. I am doing it when I am having conversations with YOU! It is now the background chatter for me. I am doing NON-STOP CLEANSING ALL of the time, ALL of the time.

Lady:

Can I say one more thing?

Joe:

Yeah.

Lady:

The OTHER thing that I find is IT HELPS ME BE PRESENT...

Joe:

Oh!

www.mrfire.com

61


Lady:

...to what they are saying, because I don’t have MY mind going a mile a minute like, “Well, why aren’t they taking responsibility?” I don’t have the judgments that normally are there!

Joe:

Right.

Lady:

They are REPLACED by that chant...the whatever it is.

Joe:

Yes. The mantra, the chant, the four phrases.

Lady:

The phrases say that.

Joe:

Yes.

Lady:

So, all is present. It’s who THEY ARE and what’s possible for THEM! I’m not even there, really.

Joe:

[Chuckle] I UNDERSTAND the experience. Yes?

Male:

I am curious. Last time we were here Francine would not start up. What happened afterwards? How did that shift?

www.mrfire.com

62


Joe:

He’s referring to my car, which you are all going to see a picture of, because I have a cleansing tool according to Dr. Hew Len. It’s coming up, so I’ll pass it now. The last time that Dr. Hew Len was here...I’ll give you a chance to speak sooner or later, but you gave me the mike so now I’m on a roll.

Audience:

[Laughing]

Dr. Hew Len:

Please be my guest.

Audience:

[Laughing]

Joe:

I have a luxury exotic sports car. It’s a hand made, very rare, pretty expensive car. It’s a Panoz. Some people pronounce it Pay-nose, but a Panoz / Pay-nose the one I have...thank you, I’d like everybody to have one...is Francine. So, some of you know about Francine. I made a...Nerissa made the business card based on a photo that your husband took a p icture of one time. After I showed Dr. Hew Len this business card, he said this is a cleansing tool. I started sweeping it all over me and I would hand it out to people knowing that I am cleansing everybody.

Audience:

www.mrfire.com

[Chuckling]

63


Joe:

So, I am passing out that business card! Whether it’s a cleansing tool or not, boy, it’s got me passing out business cards. Look what’s happening right now! Everybody gets a business card. [Chuckling]

The last time I did a seminar, I had told everybody I was going to bring Francine to the event. I went to go do it, Mark was with me over at the house, because he was admiring the car and he wanted to hear it start up. It wouldn’t start up. This was a brand new car! It wouldn’t start up!! We tried everything that we could think of. The next day it wouldn’t start.

All I could imagine was that Francine didn’t want to be left alone out here in the parking lot. She is used to being pampered. She is used to having all kinds of...you know, bathed every night [chuckling], her hair stroked [chuckling]...

Audience:

[Chuckling]

Joe:

...loving comments said to her, moments of admiration...but, she wouldn’t start. So, I didn’t bring her and it was a disappointment to most people. A lot of people wondered, “Did she start on Monday morning after the event? So, was it kind of like a psychic type of thing?” No, she did not start on Monday morning. She had to be towed. She had to have some repair done and now she starts. She runs and all of that kind of stuff. I am NOT bringing her over here in this kind of weather. She would have RAIN on her. [Chuckling]

www.mrfire.com

64


Audience:

[Chuckling]

Joe:

But the card is a cleansing tool. What is interesting is that the Panoz crest, you can see it on the front of the car just BARELY, but that Panoz crest according to Dr. Hew Len is ALSO a cleansing tool. So, you are getting a double whammy, by just LOOKING AT that business card! I felt so strongly about that, that’s being REPRODUCED IN OUR BOOK Zero Limits.

I don’t know how we got on that but...you asked me about the car?

Female:

No, how it lies.

Male:

Yeah. The curiosity of it is, “Is it the car...or is it YOU?”

Joe:

It’s ME!! It’s me! It’s me in ALL OF THIS! I pulled in the email. It’s me in the car not working. It’s me! It’s ALL ME!

Mark:

I got two cents of that...

Joe:

Okay.

www.mrfire.com

65


Mark:

...for a car objective. From MY spin of it, it would...Joe and I were wanting to spend some TIME together and he was busy. He didn’t know he HAD that time.

Joe:

Yeah.

Mark:

So, I was looking FORWARD to spending that time WITH him and I just started cleaning on it.

He said, “If it happens, it happens. If it doesn’t, it doesn’t.”

Then, when the thing with Francine, we got to spend two AMAZING DAYS TOGETHER!

Joe:

We got to spend two days together because HE spent that time WITH me! The car had to be towed to San Antonio. He drove me to San Antonio. We hung out in San Antonio thinking that the car would be done that day. It wasn’t until the NEXT day. He hung out with me that EVENING. He took me to San Antonio the next DAY! So, from HIS perspective, this was like a WONDERFUL GIFT!!

Mark:

www.mrfire.com

Maybe Francine HAD left me a gift.

66


Joe:

Well, we’re giving a lot of credit to Francine! I think it was ME and in his case, his perspective, it was HIM, pulling this all together. But I am glad that you brought it up.

Let me get Jillian. She’s had her hand up there.

Jillian:

Oh, I was just thinking about the therapy question that everyone was talking about.

Joe:

Yeah.

Jillian:

I trained thirty years ago at a Psychiatric Institute, so my original training was Foreagan and all of the other schools of therapy that were prevalent at that time. But what I have seen in my therapist that I know is that everyone is REALIZING that what is missing is the spiritual aspect. So, people and therapists have become more interested in meditation and hypnosis and magic. The kind of “magic” that we are talking about where we are NOTICING that our thoughts are powerful and our words are powerful and that we are constantly creating. So, I think that the whole therapeutic community, with the exception of some Forebeats who have their heels dug in, I think the whole therapeutic community is changing and growing and accepting new choice.

Joe:

www.mrfire.com

Good to hear. I think Craig had his hand up and then I’ll come back to you.

67


Craig:

I was just going to say that at another level of the Francine actually the two days with Mark was that you ended up coming up to MY house...

Joe:

Oh, yes!

Craig:

...and working with a couple in our neighborhood that has got quite a lot out of that, so...the WHOLE THING kind of started with...

Joe:

...the car not starting.

Craig:

Yeah.

Joe:

Look at all of the miracles now.

Craig:

Exactly.

Joe:

Yes?

Male:

I was going to say while the four statements or mantra is therapeutic for everything; there is a power to it, as you are talking to someone being engaged. But as you slept, it’s a very important and very helpful tool in general for people, in just DOING the people, if you direct it to someone. I am

www.mrfire.com

68


an attorney. I misstep or I have made promises that I write people...calling me and I like to say, “I am sorry. Please forgive me,” and direct it to them, then any kind of tension...

Joe:

would have been diffused.

Male:

...diffuses and is very effective. You can tell it’s for healing.

Joe:

Yeah, I understand. I understand. You know what? This is ALL very interesting, but I can’t help but feel that we are kind of on a level ABOVE the Zero State, because even when we talk about techniques, we talk about Francine or stories or thoughts, all of this kind of stuff. I think this is all “M” stuff. This is all memory stuff.

Where I REALLY WANT to be is white board; I want to be here, so that I can hear inspiration just come in and if I am THAT CLEAR and an inspiration comes in, I don’t even question it. If I question it, what am I doing? There is a memory. Why am I questioning it? I am questioning it because I am one step removed FROM the connection of the inspiration from The Divine.

This is why I keep doing the cleansing! From what I understand how this works and how The Divine wants to work THROUGH me is I want to be SO

www.mrfire.com

69


CLEAR at this white board, white space, zero state, zero limits, that when Inspiration comes I just do it! I just do it!

People look back and go, “Wow! That was amazing what you did!”

I just did it! I was like a puppet for The Divine. That’s a new phrase I have been using. I have been “a puppet for The Divine. ” Suzanne finished the bibliography of my life work TO DATE and we thought it might take a couple of days. It took her over a MONTH, wasn’t it...something like that? We thought it would be a few pages long. It was forty-five pages long of books, audios, ebooks, video products, websites, projects, on-and-on and on-and-on.

Now, when I LOOKED at it, I was like, “Holy Smokes! I’ve done quite a bit! [Chuckle] Wow!!” I was impressed...forty-five pages long!! But I have to admit, a whole LOT of it, some of it I consciously thought about, but a WHOLE LOT OF IT just kind of came through when I was doing my thing.

I keep finding out...I’ve met quite a few celebrities like I talked about James Cann. He’s one that is coming to mind right now. When I talk to somebody like that, he’s a SUPERSTAR! He’s a major celebrity! You try to investigate his...how did he become an actor or how did he make these choices...You know what? He doesn’t have a clue anymore than you or I about our OWN ROLES! Why am I a writer? Why am I an author? Why have I written all of

www.mrfire.com

70


Zero Limits Seminar 1 CD 1 of 6

Recommend Documents